Yeah your right ... i was being a smart ass with the slow and steady comment!! I do think the ford would be a good choice for a work truck. Dent that thing and it may actually make it look better!!!
I still don't see how Ford won that test. Slowest at everything and underpowered by a long ways. It only won because it has two new features unavailable on the Tundra or GM twins.
It bottomed out badly on the offroad test.
It did get the best MPG's at last but I would expect that from the engine with the least HP by a long ways.
The newest build at the time usually wins these things considering they are the first with new options and features.
Maybe we'll see a decent engine for the F150 in the near future?
I still don't see how Ford won that test. Slowest at everything and underpowered by a long ways. It only won because it has two new features unavailable on the Tundra or GM twins.
It bottomed out badly on the offroad test.
It did get the best MPG's at last but I would expect that from the engine with the least HP by a long ways.
The newest build at the time usually wins these things considering they are the first with new options and features.
Maybe we'll see a decent engine for the F150 in the near future?
The Dodge Ram is just as new, and I'm not sure why you dismiss the MPG because it has the least HP especially when it is also the heaviest truck in the test.
Come on know,Who in their right mind would pick the Dodge as the best truck?
The heaviest doesn't mean it will get the worst mileage. It just happens to have a combo of being the slowest by far with the least HP by a long way which just happens to equal the best MPG in this situation.
"The biggest surprise was the F-150. We suspected it might repeat its sixth-place finish from the level-ground tests, but instead it earned the fifth spot by edging out the Titan."
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Gee whiz, most available towing capacity, highest available payload, the best (and only one of two available) trailer sway control system, and the entire truck being generally better thought out for work purposes (torque converter strategy, superior tow/haul mode, tailgate step, etc...), etc.
Only you would require this spelled out.
So now we are taking "advertised" #'s as grail? Gee it seems when the competition claimed it could tow more and had a higher payload it seemed a moot point then didn't it? As for the "torque converter strategy, superior tow/haul mode", where did that get the F150 in all the "towing tests?"
Bottom line, without a bigger V8 or more than 20 more out of the 5.4, Ford better hope all the media uses the "best package" principle when testing.
I think it's time to take off those blue oval glasses or get off the swing your on.....
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It's an internet forum, get used to it. It's like having a drunk conversation with every single person in the bar minus the "I love you man".
So now we are taking "advertised" #'s as grail? Gee it seems when the competition claimed it could tow more and had a higher payload it seemed a moot point then didn't it? As for the "torque converter strategy, superior tow/haul mode", where did that get the F150 in all the "towing tests?"
Bottom line, without a bigger V8 or more than 20 more out of the 5.4, Ford better hope all the media uses the "best package" principle when testing.
I think it's time to take off those blue oval glasses or get off the swing your on.....
NO argument presented will convince you that Ford excels in anything. You are a waste of time...
Handling, wheel travel, traction control, tailgate functionality, backup camera, trailer sway control, fuel economy, and best overall half-ton.
Did you even read the article?
Sure did. I did leave my blue oval glasses at home so maybe that's why we are of differing opinions. Obviously small points like towing power and braking take a preverbal backseat to backup cameras and tailgates.....
Lets recap:
0-60 times ( acceleration - Loaded & unloaded ) - LAST
*1/4 mile ( Loaded & unloaded ) - LAST
* - could be debated as much as the handling test
Braking - second to LAST 14.38 feet more to stop than 1st place.
Squat test - third behind Tundra and Titan
Mpg test - 1st but only 0.54 mpg better than the Tundra which is the second heaviest truck with more power.
Traction Control - debateable test seeing the trucks are fully equiped with 4 wheel drive.
I guess you finally answered this question for me.
Originally Posted by SMIGGS What defines a truck as "the better worker?"
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It's an internet forum, get used to it. It's like having a drunk conversation with every single person in the bar minus the "I love you man".
Sure did. I did leave my blue oval glasses at home so maybe that's why we are of differing opinions. Obviously small points like towing power and braking take a preverbal backseat to backup cameras and tailgates.....
Lets recap:
0-60 times ( acceleration - Loaded & unloaded ) - LAST
*1/4 mile ( Loaded & unloaded ) - LAST
* - could be debated as much as the handling test
Braking - second to LAST 14.38 feet more to stop than 1st place. Squat test - third behind Tundra and Titan
Mpg test - 1st but only 0.54 mpg better than the Tundra which is the second heaviest truck with more power.
Traction Control - debateable test seeing the trucks are fully equiped with 4 wheel drive.
I guess you finally answered this question for me.
Originally Posted by SMIGGS What defines a truck as "the better worker?"
I don't get why people determine how well a truck handles a load by how much it squats down. A manufacturer could use the exact same springs, just shove in a small lift block, and it would no longer look like its squatting under load.
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Sure did. I did leave my blue oval glasses at home so maybe that's why we are of differing opinions. Obviously small points like towing power and braking take a preverbal backseat to backup cameras and tailgates.....
Lets recap:
0-60 times ( acceleration - Loaded & unloaded ) - LAST
*1/4 mile ( Loaded & unloaded ) - LAST
* - could be debated as much as the handling test
Braking - second to LAST 14.38 feet more to stop than 1st place.
Squat test - third behind Tundra and Titan
Mpg test - 1st but only 0.54 mpg better than the Tundra which is the second heaviest truck with more power.
Traction Control - debateable test seeing the trucks are fully equiped with 4 wheel drive.
I guess you finally answered this question for me.
Originally Posted by SMIGGS What defines a truck as "the better worker?"
I suppose if you're buying the truck based solely on how fast it goes from 0 to 60, or how fast is does this or how fast it does that then the F150 is not the first choice. If you want a TRUCK that is a TRUCK not a car, then you want the F150. It has a decent ride, good handling, good fuel economy. These are what most contractors are looking for. They could care less how fast it goes from 0 to 60. What they want is a capable truck that gets decent fuel economy with a reasonable price tag. Not that ANY of these trucks have what I consider a reasonable price tag.
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I think the 0-60s are just a quanitative measurement of power. Other that actual seat of the pants driving, it would be hard to convey that in print.
I seriously doubt that any of these trucks would do a bad job of 1/2 ton work. All I want to say is that with a more powerful engine, the F150 would have totally smoked the competition.
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