I dont understand why people what to bring back the 302 and the 300I6. They where both good motors, but they fail to compare to the current tritons. The tritons make more hp per CI than either of those in stock form. As well as more efficient in every way.
People say they get xx mpg in these old engines in there old trucks which is fine, but these current trucks are also much heavier than the older ones where to. It would be like throwing 1000lb (just a number) in the bed and driving around. Anyways. just my thoughts
I think the current engine line up is great and would do awesome for a lighter duty pickup like an F-100. if the max tow is 5000lb and max weight in the bed is 1700lbs, you wont have any need for 400lb ft tq.
I think they need to make a lighter work truck than the F-150, simple as that. no need for reinvention of the wheel here. Just use what they have and make a heavier Ranger with a crew cab option. make the 4.2l, 4.6l 2v and 4.6l 3v the available motors and try to shoot for 22-24mpg on the lighter equipped vehicles. Offer long beds and what not and make options available that suit people that use there trucks for work.
Heck my 02 Sport trac had vinal floors. It was awesome.
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99' F-150 Super Cab Step Side
5.4l/4R70W (previously a 4.6l romeo)
CAI,Flowmaster 50 series dual exhaust,Gryphon Tuner with custom tunes (300 bhp est)
900LB AAL, cranked front Torsion Bars =(2in lift)Lariat LE Seats, Alpine cd player/6x9 speakers
2003 Fx4 Rims, 255/75/17 BFG MT KM
I would like to see a super cab model and if they keep the f-100 badge do like the old days and give the f-100 its own trim levels like the custom, sport custom and ranger. Oh and fords rumored 302 wouldn't be a bad little choice to put in there as a v-8 motor.
bring back the 302! and redesign the ranger, to f100 and throw in some retro feel, no heavy retro, just some 67-79 cues, and make it tougher and give it a 302 and i600 and super charge them! and lets see this truck get built! and the old trim levels like mentioned by 1972fordf-100 are good ideas too.
__________________ 1977 Ford F-150 4x4 *1971*302w Transmission is a AOD T-Case is a NP205 Front Dana 44 3.50 Rear 9" Ford 3.50
The 302 and 300 I6 are not coming back, might as well face it. At least not the way they used to be. If the ci #s add up to 302 or 300 that about as close as it gets. I own a 302 and I have been in many I6s. I can say the 4.6l will blow both away and be cleaner and more fuel effcient doing it. The I6 was torquey but so is the 4.6l when switched into low range. The 4.0l SOHC will certainly give some 302s and I6s a run for their money in a small truck.
100% agreed. Great engines, but fall short of the newer ones. +rep
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99' F-150 Super Cab Step Side
5.4l/4R70W (previously a 4.6l romeo)
CAI,Flowmaster 50 series dual exhaust,Gryphon Tuner with custom tunes (300 bhp est)
900LB AAL, cranked front Torsion Bars =(2in lift)Lariat LE Seats, Alpine cd player/6x9 speakers
2003 Fx4 Rims, 255/75/17 BFG MT KM
The 302 and 300 I6 are not coming back, might as well face it. At least not the way they used to be. If the ci #s add up to 302 or 300 that about as close as it gets. I own a 302 and I have been in many I6s. I can say the 4.6l will blow both away and be cleaner and more fuel effcient doing it. The I6 was torquey but so is the 4.6l when switched into low range. The 4.0l SOHC will certainly give some 302s and I6s a run for their money in a small truck.
Know you all are rite on all accounts, just some us long fer days of yore i reckon along with the F100 badge... While id like to see a diesel in the line up, i wouldnt bother much with the 2V 4.6 V8. Wonder how a 3v spec, (hey why not a 4v per pot) 4.2 V6 would do. and the 3v 4.6 V8 as option.
yes a diesel is a really nice idea for the ranger/f100, straight 6 diesel would be wonders! lots of torque and power, and this could make one tough little truck, the i6 are much better engines, the have more torque which is important in a truck, plus there simpler to build and are like tractor motors, the mustang can keep the v6 which is a good motor, but i don't feel it fits the truck platform. and the 4v per pot is a swell idea! and if anything they should make the next v8 a 5.0/302, they still make a create motor version at ford, so it can be reinstalled in the trucks and cars, plus it has a vintage name, 302 and boss, ford needs those names, as the competition has the 426 chevy and dodge has there hemi's, ford has no retro motor to compete, the 302 is a excellent motor and was a tragedy when they stopped putting them in cars and trucks, remember the 302 is remembered as the best ford motor for size and power and was used the longest of any of there motors and had the biggest aftermarket boom then any other ford motor, that's saying a lot.
__________________ 1977 Ford F-150 4x4 *1971*302w Transmission is a AOD T-Case is a NP205 Front Dana 44 3.50 Rear 9" Ford 3.50
Remind me again why you need all that torque for a truck thats suppoed to be light duty? By a 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck if you need to haul stuff. The F-100 is a lighter duty truck thats supposed to be cheaper. Like the ranger is now. Adding performance engines is pointless.
The 302 was a great motor but theres not point to build it for a newer cheaper truck. I guess if you are wanting to build dream truck i then thats cool.
My original intentions where to be what would you like to see on the new F-100 and realistically. Not that it really matters. Its fun to think about what could have been.
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99' F-150 Super Cab Step Side
5.4l/4R70W (previously a 4.6l romeo)
CAI,Flowmaster 50 series dual exhaust,Gryphon Tuner with custom tunes (300 bhp est)
900LB AAL, cranked front Torsion Bars =(2in lift)Lariat LE Seats, Alpine cd player/6x9 speakers
2003 Fx4 Rims, 255/75/17 BFG MT KM
I like (Pushrod) engines but its not comming back,
I have no probs with the current MOD' motors i have seen some that last forver 300000 + miles and have seen sone that are junk. F-100 with a small V8 would be cool
But make the truck light under 5,000 lbs if you want better MPG
I think an option of a somewhat super crew is necesarry to compete with the colorado and the dakota crew cabs on the road.
also the 4.6l makes more hp and tq than any stock 5.0 or 4.9 I6 ever offered from for with better mileage to boot.
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99' F-150 Super Cab Step Side
5.4l/4R70W (previously a 4.6l romeo)
CAI,Flowmaster 50 series dual exhaust,Gryphon Tuner with custom tunes (300 bhp est)
900LB AAL, cranked front Torsion Bars =(2in lift)Lariat LE Seats, Alpine cd player/6x9 speakers
2003 Fx4 Rims, 255/75/17 BFG MT KM
They should be available in a crew configuration no doubt. Ford needs to consolidate some models and getting rid of the Sporttrac and just having an F-100 or Ranger crew would help fill the void of the sport trac. Its obvious the crew would be the heavier than a SC or Reg cab, but so what, don't buy the crew if you want a lighter truck.
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sorry no more F-100 Ford is banking on the F-150 SVT Raptor
