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Lightbulb Ammonia Fuel

Have any of you guys looked into ammonia as a fuel or additive.

A gallon of anhydrous ammonia has more hydrogen than a gallon of liquid hydrogen.

It's cheap and abundant.

Rather combustable there's many differant engines that have been powered with ammonia from cars to jets.

It very readily absorbs in water, and apparently can be mixed with gasoline/deisel.

I was thinking a good first step would be and ammonia injection system much like water/methonal injection using an ammonia/water mix.

Thoughts?
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My Dad used to work with Anhydrous Ammonia as a fertilizer. The stuff is pretty dangerous. You needed special licenses and training to work with the stuff. If you had a large spill, or a blown line or blown tank, your only hope was to get to the emergency shower in the 20-30 seconds before it killed you.

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A solution in water is rather safe.
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water doesn't burn very well last I checked...
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water doesn't burn very well last I checked...
my thoughts too
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Fine stick with your HHO scam.
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Have any of you guys looked into ammonia as a fuel or additive.
Yes, I thought about, but it's less than ideal, even though it's one of the few fuels that can be had and used without any greenhouse gas emission. Another is hydrazine (N2H4), which is actually used as a rocket fuel.

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A gallon of anhydrous ammonia has more hydrogen than a gallon of liquid hydrogen.

It's cheap and abundant.
Do you know what's needed to make concentrated ammonia on an industrial scale? Nitrogen, which is plentiful in the air, and hydrogen, which is usually made of natural gas. You'd better of burning CNG than making NH3 from it, and then trying to burn that.

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Rather combustible there's many different engines that have been powered with ammonia from cars to jets.
I haven't heard any engines powered with it, so it's probably not very common, and there are some good reasons for that, with one of the mbeing:
"Ammonia does not burn readily or sustain combustion, except under narrow fuel-to-air mixtures of 15-25% air. " (this is from Ammonia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )

Other one s that concentrated ammonia can be rather deadly, much more dangerous than either gasoline or hydrogen.

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It very readily absorbs in water, and apparently can be mixed with gasoline/deisel.
The water part is most certainly true, but I'm somewhat (?!) skeptical about the other two.

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I was thinking a good first step would be and ammonia injection system much like water/methonal injection using an ammonia/water mix.
Just get a water injection kit, and put in ammonia instead of water.

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Fine stick with your HHO scam.
At least they don't stink as much as NH3....
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