I'm thinking of getting the Magnaflow 16608 system for my King Ranch.
I have a Gryphon on the way but have not had a chance to call Bill at Gryphon to see what he thinks.....I'm sure a few of you have spoke to him about exhausts.....what are his general views...or your's on cat backs....
There are no regulations here permitting the removal of the cat converter....so that could also be an option...then run a true dual.
Or....I was also wondering if it's worth installing a Magnaflow Universal catalytic Converter-High Flow 2.5" In/Out, 13" Body Length part no. 94106 along with the 16608 system....I'm overseas so i can't measure the stock cat converter...is it 13" long?? Would this be worth it.
Ok, first of, you CAN run true duals with the stock converters. Anyone who says otherwise has never actually taken a look at how your vehicle is set up.
Secondly, you can get better cats than Magnaflow. Magnaflow is nothing more than a private label on an otherwise worse than average converter. There are several brands that are better. Magnaflow uses cheap Korean steel, and it is about 50% thinner than what other brands often use. It will offer you no sound or power gains over the original converter in your application, unless your original is plugged.
There are no gains to be had by going with true duals. And any benefits would be negated by the fact that you then have to run two mufflers, and two pipes, so it costs more, and weighs more. You can get just a good a sound by using a dual outlet muffler and running two tailpipes. It also delivers more power and costs less.
My advice is to leave the stock cats alone. They are not restrictive, and unless they are damaged, there is no reason to replace them.
If you did want to replace them, we have cats that work really well for that. Our part# 1005 is larger and less expensive, longer lasting and better built than Magnaflow. As a result of its larger cross section, it flows better and sounds better.
The Magnaflow you have selected is a smaller cat than their standard series. The 94100 series is one of Magnaflows economy products, and is best suited for older smaller vehicles. In contrast, our 1000 series is designed with trucks in mind, with special attention to flow, load rating, and sound. It has 30% more catalyst than the equivalent Magnaflow, 25% more airflow, and more than double the lifespan.
On the subject of the muffler, the kit is overall good and should last a long time, and has a good sound. However, the mufflers are made of the same Korean steel as their converters, and the mufflers often eventually break around the necks, often on both the inlet and the outlet. I would consider a Borla, Flowmaster, or Dynomax instead.
Ok, first of, you CAN run true duals with the stock converters. Anyone who says otherwise has never actually taken a look at how your vehicle is set up.
Secondly, you can get better cats than Magnaflow. Magnaflow is nothing more than a private label on an otherwise worse than average converter. There are several brands that are better. Magnaflow uses cheap Korean steel, and it is about 50% thinner than what other brands often use. It will offer you no sound or power gains over the original converter in your application, unless your original is plugged.
There are no gains to be had by going with true duals. And any benefits would be negated by the fact that you then have to run two mufflers, and two pipes, so it costs more, and weighs more. You can get just a good a sound by using a dual outlet muffler and running two tailpipes. It also delivers more power and costs less.
My advice is to leave the stock cats alone. They are not restrictive, and unless they are damaged, there is no reason to replace them.
If you did want to replace them, we have cats that work really well for that. Our part# 1005 is larger and less expensive, longer lasting and better built than Magnaflow. As a result of its larger cross section, it flows better and sounds better.
The Magnaflow you have selected is a smaller cat than their standard series. The 94100 series is one of Magnaflows economy products, and is best suited for older smaller vehicles. In contrast, our 1000 series is designed with trucks in mind, with special attention to flow, load rating, and sound. It has 30% more catalyst than the equivalent Magnaflow, 25% more airflow, and more than double the lifespan.
On the subject of the muffler, the kit is overall good and should last a long time, and has a good sound. However, the mufflers are made of the same Korean steel as their converters, and the mufflers often eventually break around the necks, often on both the inlet and the outlet. I would consider a Borla, Flowmaster, or Dynomax instead.
Lots of good information there....thanks very much for that.
Is there a mileage they recomend for changing the cat. converters?
I just bought this truck and it has 120,000 miles on it.....so is there a chance they are plugged? I think to get that many miles on an 06 it's safe to say most were hi-way miles.
If the vehicle has been properly maintained, and the O2 sensors are replaced every 80,000 miles or so, and the engine does not burn an abnormal amount of oil, the converters should last as long as the vehicle. So there is no recommended interval for replacing the converters. If they fail, then there was either a design flaw, or something else failed, such as an O2 sensor or spark plugs, and caused the vehicle to run out of tune and destroy the converter.
I supposed there is a chance they are plugged, but keep in mind, we have some vehicles with much higher mileage that still have the original factory cats. My dad's '96 Ranger has over 300,000 miles and still has the original. My Aerostar is just over 180,000 right now and it is original. My dad's '00 Dakota is also original, with over 280,000 miles. My dad also has a '95 Geo Prism with almost 400,000 miles on it, and it has an original converter too. So I feel it is safe to say, mileage does not kill catalytic converters. But if fuel management components fail, then that can cause excessive fuel to enter the exhaust and that can cause the converter to melt, plug, or otherwise fail prematurely.
I'm thinking of getting the Magnaflow 16608 system for my King Ranch.
I have a Gryphon on the way but have not had a chance to call Bill at Gryphon to see what he thinks.....I'm sure a few of you have spoke to him about exhausts & magnaflow catalytic converter.....what are his general views...or your's on cat backs....
There are no regulations here permitting the removal of the cat converter....so that could also be an option...then run a true dual.
Or....I was also wondering if it's worth installing a Magnaflow Universal catalytic Converter-High Flow 2.5" In/Out, 13" Body Length part no. 94106 along with the 16608 system....I'm overseas so i can't measure the stock cat converter...is it 13" long?? Would this be worth it.
Any info or comments would be appreciated.
Thanks.
If I were in your situation I will just leave the stock cat con on stocks. That should be left untouched unless it breaks down.
I'm thinking of getting the Magnaflow 16608 system for my King Ranch.
I have a Gryphon on the way but have not had a chance to call Bill at Gryphon to see what he thinks.....I'm sure a few of you have spoke to him about exhausts.....what are his general views...or your's on cat backs....
There are no regulations here permitting the removal of the cat converter....so that could also be an option...then run a true dual.
Or....I was also wondering if it's worth installing a magnaflow catalytic onverter -High Flow 2.5" In/Out, 13" Body Length part no. 94106 along with the 16608 system....I'm overseas so i can't measure the stock cat converter...is it 13" long?? Would this be worth it.
Any info or comments would be appreciated.
Thanks.
What did you end up doing Im currently facing the same situation and am looking for opinions to help me save a dime
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