V-10 False overheating.
#1
V-10 False overheating.
Greetings all.
I'am a newbie to this site. Glad I came across it.
I drive an 06 F450 with the V10 and have a about 33,000 miles on it.
A few weeks ago after coming down a long grade (18 miles) and using the tow/haul mode to hold back the speed a give the service brakes a rest I got the MIL on the dash to come on and the truck went into limp mode. I shut it off and did a quick restart and all was good.
Since then it has happened to the point where it is almost daily now.
I believe it is a electronic problem and not the thermostat or cross-over pipe.
Does anyone know where the cylinder head temp sending unit or coolant sending unit is located on these engines. Next time it happens I would like to disconnect the sending unit and see what happens since the dealer cant make it overheat by looking at it in a service bay (DUH!)
I see some people have had have ford buy the trucks back, I really dont what that option since the truck would have to go to a upfitter to re-place the bed with a aerial lift bucket and all the goodies on it now.
Any suggestions are much appreciated.
I'am a newbie to this site. Glad I came across it.
I drive an 06 F450 with the V10 and have a about 33,000 miles on it.
A few weeks ago after coming down a long grade (18 miles) and using the tow/haul mode to hold back the speed a give the service brakes a rest I got the MIL on the dash to come on and the truck went into limp mode. I shut it off and did a quick restart and all was good.
Since then it has happened to the point where it is almost daily now.
I believe it is a electronic problem and not the thermostat or cross-over pipe.
Does anyone know where the cylinder head temp sending unit or coolant sending unit is located on these engines. Next time it happens I would like to disconnect the sending unit and see what happens since the dealer cant make it overheat by looking at it in a service bay (DUH!)
I see some people have had have ford buy the trucks back, I really dont what that option since the truck would have to go to a upfitter to re-place the bed with a aerial lift bucket and all the goodies on it now.
Any suggestions are much appreciated.
#2
Aloha,
Your truck has a number of TSBs (Technical Service Bulletins) that deal with that very issue.
Some have had get to a new thermostat while others needed the PCM recalibrated.
Check this out. https://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/tsb....6/d-F-450%20SD
And make sure you check in down at the V10 forum!
Your truck has a number of TSBs (Technical Service Bulletins) that deal with that very issue.
Some have had get to a new thermostat while others needed the PCM recalibrated.
Check this out. https://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/tsb....6/d-F-450%20SD
And make sure you check in down at the V10 forum!
#3
The TSB you're looking for is:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/full...p?tsb=06-21-15
False overheat for the 5.4 and 6.8 - involves a new crossover and thermostat.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/full...p?tsb=06-21-15
False overheat for the 5.4 and 6.8 - involves a new crossover and thermostat.
#4
Service manual.
I would like to know where the sending units for either cylinder head temp or coolant temps are located. Next time (probably tomorrow) it acts up, I would like to disconnect the sending unit and see what happens. It's a company truck and if it goes to the dealer for repairs it'll be gone at least 2 - 3 weeks before I get it back. If I can isolate the trouble to a sending unit I might get a faster turn-around.
#5
I have been told that the cylinder head temp (CHT) is a calculated (Educated Guess) number from the trucks computer based off the reading from water temp sending unit. Only one sensor.
I would have the TSB # in hand next time you go to the dealer. Changing the crossover tube and T-stat should take little time. Parts should not take more than a day or two to arrive at the dealer. Most parts come next day.
I would have the TSB # in hand next time you go to the dealer. Changing the crossover tube and T-stat should take little time. Parts should not take more than a day or two to arrive at the dealer. Most parts come next day.
#6
I have been told that the cylinder head temp (CHT) is a calculated (Educated Guess) number from the trucks computer based off the reading from water temp sending unit. Only one sensor.
I would have the TSB # in hand next time you go to the dealer. Changing the crossover tube and T-stat should take little time. Parts should not take more than a day or two to arrive at the dealer. Most parts come next day.
I would have the TSB # in hand next time you go to the dealer. Changing the crossover tube and T-stat should take little time. Parts should not take more than a day or two to arrive at the dealer. Most parts come next day.
#7
I remember someone posted in the V10 forum about that once, and I went and researched it, and found replacement procedures for both the 2-valve and the 3-valve CHT.
The F150 and passenger-car engines interpolate cylinder-head temp from the water temp sensor.
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#8
Just checked, and at least for 2007, there is a procedure for replacing the CHT on the 5.4 and the 6.8.
2007 F-Super Duty 250-550 Workshop Manual
2007 F-Super Duty 250-550 Workshop Manual
#9
The 2-valve V10 does have a CHT sensor, as well as (I think) the 3-valve.
I remember someone posted in the V10 forum about that once, and I went and researched it, and found replacement procedures for both the 2-valve and the 3-valve CHT.
The F150 and passenger-car engines interpolate cylinder-head temp from the water temp sensor.
I remember someone posted in the V10 forum about that once, and I went and researched it, and found replacement procedures for both the 2-valve and the 3-valve CHT.
The F150 and passenger-car engines interpolate cylinder-head temp from the water temp sensor.
#10
On the F150 and passenger-car engines, it's calculated and not a real sensor.
#11
Well, I took it in to the dealer yesterday. I should get a call from them next week to see what they find out.
I wonder if the first dealer actually did change the t-stat and bypass hose?
Seems like whenever the tranny would hit 5th gear is when it would think it was over heating. I still think that its an electronic glitch and not the t-stat.
I'll post again after I hear from the dealer.
Brian.
I wonder if the first dealer actually did change the t-stat and bypass hose?
Seems like whenever the tranny would hit 5th gear is when it would think it was over heating. I still think that its an electronic glitch and not the t-stat.
I'll post again after I hear from the dealer.
Brian.
#12
Any updates I'm haveing the same issue 2006 5.4 Lincoln Navigator but mine does it once in a while takes about a 2 hour drive to make it happen replaced coolant temp sensor and oil press sensor. Other then that same issue. Pull over 1 minute and back down to temp ready to run might get 3 miles then back again. Or might go 60 miles.
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