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Old 10-28-2008, 01:39 PM
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I have a friend with 2 STS systems, one on a 02 Camaro, which runs 9.50's, the other on a Trailblazer SS running low 12's with 5-6 psi. Both have been reliable, and the mount the air filter with a waterproof nylon prefilter, and a splash shield so that they don't suck water. This is good as long as your not crossing streams or driving through flooded viaducts.
Are they daily drivers running around in rain, snow, through puddles on the road and etc? Basically normal driving conditions, especially for a truck. The dirtiest place to mount something is under the vehicle, you can only box the setup in so much as it still needs plenty of cool air. Those nylon prefilters are not waterproof, I have one my truck. They do however help to keep water off the filter but not waterproof especially when your sucking air through them with a forced induction setup.
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Realistically, ma bey at the fly wheel with 12 to 15 bls of boost, As i recall your truck is high millage, I wouldn't get that aggressive, I wouldn't go more than 8 with the inter cooler.

What are you going to do for fuel, injectors, pump, fmu, boost a pump?

And 600 hp, your tranny wont stand a chance. RIP that little 4r100. lol

But if you pull this off you will be the only person on this forum with a turbo v10. sounds like a fun project.
With aftermarket parts that little 4r100 can be built rock-solid
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Interesting project for a V10! Good luck...


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Here's a thread I posted in the turbo/supercharger forum, about sizing twins for a V10

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Are they daily drivers running around in rain, snow, through puddles on the road and etc? Basically normal driving conditions, especially for a truck. The dirtiest place to mount something is under the vehicle, you can only box the setup in so much as it still needs plenty of cool air. Those nylon prefilters are not waterproof, I have one my truck. They do however help to keep water off the filter but not waterproof especially when your sucking air through them with a forced induction setup.
Personally if I was going to put a turbo wear the muffler is, I would cut a whole in the bed and mount the filter in there with a box covering it, and plume it in with flex pipe, or something like that, the air wouldbe cleaner and cooler.
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Are they daily drivers running around in rain, snow, through puddles on the road and etc? Basically normal driving conditions, especially for a truck. The dirtiest place to mount something is under the vehicle, you can only box the setup in so much as it still needs plenty of cool air. Those nylon prefilters are not waterproof, I have one my truck. They do however help to keep water off the filter but not waterproof especially when your sucking air through them with a forced induction setup.
Only the trailblazer is driven daily, (every day) and has never had driveabilty problems. They do put the filter in a pretty good spot usually.
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Here's some things I have learned in the past few weeks.

1.) Stock fuel pump puts out 210 lph. Good enough for 565hp.
2.) '94-'95 thunderbird SC fuel injectors are 36 lb/hr and on our engines can handle 565 hp. Can be had at rockauto for $27 ea.
3.) Adjustable fuel pressure regulators can be used from 5.0 ('94+), 4.6 and 5.4.

Things I need to find out....
1.) Are the injectors handled in the MAF or ECM? If its the MAF, I need one calibrated for 36lbs. Can I use one from a '94-'95 Thunderbird SC?

2.) Can I use a trans cooler from a junked superduty truck mounted in front of the radiator as my heat exchanger for my air-to-water I/C?

Things acquired so far.

1.) Garrett T61 turbo (with assoc. flanges, fittings and v-band clamps)

2.) Air-to-water I/C

3.) Various legths of 3" aluminized pipe.

4.) 50mm 8psi Wastegate

5.) Wideband O2

6.) A/F Gauge with digital readout

Lots more needed but I'll get them in time. Total cost of everything will not go over $1500. So far, I only have $400 into it.
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Oh yea, I bent and welded the exhaust pipe with the divided T3 flange on it for mock up purposes, bolted the turbo to it and kind held it in place with the muffler removed. Looks nasty.
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Oh yea, I bent and welded the exhaust pipe with the divided T3 flange on it for mock up purposes, bolted the turbo to it and kind held it in place with the muffler removed. Looks nasty.
If you only have 400 in to it, that AF gauge isn't wide band,Unless its used. I would never attempt to tune without a wide band, narrow bands are junk IMO, I paid 375 for mine.

Also the injectors are controlled by the ECM. ( dont quote me on that)

Look up the user Frederic, you can find him in the supercharged/turbo forum, ask him these questions and he answer them guaranteed.
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A/F Gauge was used, new wide O2 was included (gotta love ebay). Most of the other stuff was given to me from a buddy of mine that worked at a performance shop that just went under. He gave me the all the aluminized pipe and the wastegate.

Sweet about the injectors. That saves me alot of pain.

I'll ask Frederic, thanks for the info.
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A/F Gauge was used, new wide O2 was included (gotta love ebay). Most of the other stuff was given to me from a buddy of mine that worked at a performance shop that just went under. He gave me the all the aluminized pipe and the wastegate.

Sweet about the injectors. That saves me alot of pain.

I'll ask Frederic, thanks for the info.
Dont quote me on the injectors when i did my 36bl injectors all i did was put a chip on the ECM that looks like the SCT eliminator.

Curse!!! I couldnt find one used on ebay so I hade to buy new, It sucked, In my 3 pods I have close to 7 to 8 hundred
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I am also going to 36 lb injectors. Do I have to get the ECM burned for 36's?

I'm wondering if Diablosport can do that with the custom tuning they offer with my tuner.

Found out more about the fuel pressure regulator, it's really not what it is in so many words. The ECM controls the fuel pump speed to regulate pressure. So I have to use larger injectors or FMU. I refuse to use an FMU, I have access to 36lb injectors I'll use them, not put an expensive band-aid over the problem. Damn returnless fuel systems.
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I would definitely do a tune to handle the injectors, changing the MAF and NOT altering the PCM doesn't sound like the right way to go.

Interesting about the SC injectors - those SC's were somethin' else.
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Yes they were, I miss mine.

It used to be, in EEC IV systems that all you had to do to move up from say 19lb inj. to 24 was change the MAF to one that was calibrated to the 24lb injectors.

Our trucks have the cal in the ECM. Now correct me if I am wrong here but......

From my understanding, the ECM doesn't have "19" lb injector programmed into it. Nor would it have a scheme for "36" lb either. I'm guessing that the adjustment is made in pulse width. Is this right? If that is the fact then this is easier than I thought. I figured to get the ECM prgrammed for 36 lb injectors was going to be impossible. The Predator tuner can adjust pulse width and some others but only to a certain scale. A diablo dealer can make a larger adjustment.

I also have a correction. BBK straight lied to me on the phone earlier. There is no adjustable FPR for this engine, nor 5.4 or 4.6 since they employ a non-return fuel system. The pump actually makes the pressure go up or down according to demand. SO getting a AFPR would be senseless.
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haven't been on here for a while has been a busy summer for me but here is some pics of my turbo v-10 setup for ya hope this helps you out just realized I have no pics of the business end lol will try to get ya some pics













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