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Old 10-22-2009, 07:57 AM
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Any time! I looked at some of their photos on the site and they are very nice looking vehicles. I wouldn't want one of the six door models because of the size but a four door would be super!
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If I was running Ford, and wanted to globalize the F-Series brand, the diesels would look something like this

F-100
2.4L 4 Cyl 190/320
3L V6 240/400

F-150
3L V6 with 240/400
4.4 V8 with 320/520

F-250
4.4 V8 with 320/520
6.7 V8 with 400/720

The EcoBoost engines in the three vehicles would be:
F-100 - 2.0T, 3.5T

F-150: 3.5T

F-250 5.0T/Ethanol (Bobcat)

Base engines for all 3 would be 3.7 V6, 5.0 V8, 6.2 V8

I would keep F-350 and higher for US market only.
Heres hoping they would take the F series global even if we only get up to F250... BTW the Brazillian F250 now uses a Cummins 3.9 i4 good for 270 hp and around 420 fl lbs. Id be happy to have even that verion available...
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:55 AM
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I think the biggest reason they do not want to release the 1/2 ton diesel is because they are not sure if they can sell enough of them to make it worth it and make up the loss of sales from the 3/4 ton diesels. the larger the truck the larger the profit and they would have to either charge a butt load of money for the 1/2 ton or sell a butt load of them at a reasonable price. just my .02
Makes sense. Sure I would like a smaller diesel that was more efficient than my 3/4 tons and could haul reasonable (7000 lbs) loads cross country. But if I am buying the smaller diesel "instead" of full size diesels the economy of scale for ford to mfg the full size diesels drops and we will all be paying more for the full size units.

It's not thay tey cannot make them both and turnprofits, it's just that it takes a vision and bean counters always win when you company is driven by short term profits. Visionaries only win when the bigger picture is the driving factor.
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:08 AM
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Short term planning and profits are exactly what has been driving the American economy for decades. That's is why the financial sector, the manufacturing sector, and the housing sector, and vitually every other aspect of the world economy is in the toilet. We have no visionaries in charge anywhere.
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Short term planning and profits are exactly what has been driving the American economy for decades. That's is why the financial sector, the manufacturing sector, and the housing sector, and vitually every other aspect of the world economy is in the toilet. We have no visionaries in charge anywhere.
its sad but true
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There is a market for small diesel p/u's,Mahindra's are flat ugly but if you want a small diesel................ http://www.dfwmahindra.com/index.php?x=home ,http://www.pickuptrucks.com/html/news/mahindra/dieselhybridandmore.html ,http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/08/taj-mahauler-we-drive-the-mahindra-diesel-pik-up.html
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Do you SERIOUSLY think Ford is always second fiddle to the other manufacturers?

I guess they have just been lucky the past 30+ years selling more of their subpar offerings....
I really hate to be the 1 to point this out but FORD was the leader of the pack FOR THE ENTIRE MUSCLE CAR ERA (compact muscle cars) with the Mustang then gm followed with the camaro and firebird and i think the nova but then chrysler followed at the tail end with i beleive the cuda i could be wrong on chrysler though and yes i know this is a diesel thread
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i know toyota has announced they are coming out with a half ton diesel, so i think its safe to say ford, chevy, and dodge will follow suit. I did read about 4 months ago were the big three had shelfed them, looks like its a go now thou.
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Old 11-18-2009, 07:50 PM
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Rangernutt, Ford was not the first to have a muscle car. That honor was bestowed upon Pontiac with their 64 GTO. A muscle car is defined as a large displacement high performance engine in an intermediate sized body. Ford is the first to have developed and marketed the pony car with the Mustang. But the Mustang did not gain muscle car status until 67 when the 390 was installed at the factory and Shelby installed 427's and 428's in their GT500.
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Old 11-30-2009, 10:16 PM
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Small Diesel

Ford produces small diesels all over the world why they cant bring one to the US is beyond me
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Old 12-01-2009, 06:04 PM
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Actually Ford entered the musclecar field in 66 with the 390 Fairlane and Comet. But at any rate they weren't first. Ford hasn't brought small displacement diesel to the US for a few reasons. Most countries that have them because fuel is much more expensive than in the US. They use diesel power to get better fuel mileage. Climate is another reason. It's much colder in the northern US than a lot of the countries that have the diesels. We don't have the infrastructure to plug them in in cold weather. The tree huggers don't like them because they stink and therefore they feel that they pollute. Ford had some small diesels in the US with Ranger, Escort, and Tempo in the mid eighties and sales weren't very good. They were good packages but didn't sell very well. With abundant gasoline supplies and the negative attitude toward diesel power by the uneducated masses and treehuggers is probably why Ford doesn't market a small diesel here.
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Old 12-02-2009, 06:34 PM
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My wife has a VW jetta tdi and it get 40+ mpg. Why can't you make a small diesel for an f150 that can get 20 plus mpg and still tow 7000-9000 lbs. if you made it fuel eficient people would buy it...
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:14 PM
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From what I've heard and read on other forums the 4.4L does that. I would probably buy one as well if I could get over 22 mpg empty and 13-14 mpg towing and still have decent power. Especially if they left the big brother electronics off of the truck. Don't need tp monitors or oil change monitors and the like. And I'd really feel safer if they would bring back the throttle cable and lose the wireless throttle body.
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How do you know that people will actually want a diesel powered 1/2 ton pickup. See my above post.

I currently have a 2005 F150 and i love my truck and have no plans of ever selling it. BUT if they come out with a diesel F150, ill be waiting at the dealership to trade my truck in!!!!!
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Overheard in 1977;

I currently own and love my 1975 C10 but if they ever come out with that 5.7 diesel in a 1/2 ton pickup I will be waiting at the dealership to trade.



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