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Brush Guard w/4 moose lites
Mobil-1 Turbo diesel truck oil
fuel filters every 10,000 miles
AstroStart auto start
98 gal Transfer flow tank
Rhino liner on the rockers
Wabasto-Blue heat
MBRP turbo back duels w/ no CAT
I agree with bikepharmer, it seems we as a country are in love with only hybrids. I have owned ford trucks for more than 15 years, they have always been my favorite but now I am reduced to driving VW's because their one of the very few to offer a diesel in a smaller vehicle or truck. My jetta normally gets 49-52 mpg and my rabbit truck gets 50mpg day in and out. If ford would get on the stick and build a I4 turbo diesel ranger I would be in line with cash. But O wait, only europe gets those, we have a better plan , stick a bunch of batteries in a car to improve [FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']gas [/font]mileage to a realistic 10 or so [FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']less[/font] mpg than the same car with a diesel would get!!!!!!! Geez I can see my ford stock will continue it's trend (down) I think whoever get's a halfton diesel on the market is going to sell a bunch of them provided they doesn’t want some ridiculous premium for the engine upgrade. I am thinking a Jap manufacture will beat the big three to it at this point. For goodness sakes if we must haul around a truckload of batteries why not do it with a diesel.fficeffice" />>> > >
Stepping off my soapbox now, Dave>>
That's because the liberal media and tree huggers are ramming these garbage hybrids down our throats!! Cleaner burning diesels will be around LONG after the last E-85 using POS is gone!!
I think Ford could easily get a f-150 diesel in production if they would let people with common sense guide them rather than the marketing team and "experts". For example, ford could put a Cummins 4.5L 4cyl turbodiesel in the F-150 without re-designing the whole thing. That engine would have more than enough power and torque and could easily get 25mpg. Theres no need to re-write the book on diesel and design their own 4.4L v8 diesel. In my opinion, it is ignorant to build a V8 diesel that small when an inline version of the same engine would be much better. I would surely be interested in a new diesel f-150 but for now I will just enjoy my cummins powered '95 F150
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1995 Ford F-150
Black/Silver-Extended Cab-4x4-M5R2
Powered by a 3.9L Cummins 4BT TurboDiesel
I think Ford could easily get a f-150 diesel in production if they would let people with common sense guide them rather than the marketing team and "experts". For example, ford could put a Cummins 4.5L 4cyl turbodiesel in the F-150 without re-designing the whole thing. That engine would have more than enough power and torque and could easily get 25mpg. Theres no need to re-write the book on diesel and design their own 4.4L v8 diesel. In my opinion, it is ignorant to build a V8 diesel that small when an inline version of the same engine would be much better. I would surely be interested in a new diesel f-150 but for now I will just enjoy my cummins powered '95 F150
It's not quite so easy for Ford to just go and throw a Cummins into a truck as it is for somebody like yourself to do it. Also I think it is ignorance on your part to say that an inline will automatically be much better then a V engine.
Try as I might, I can not find any information on either a 2007 or 2010 emissions compliant inline 4 cylinder diesel engine on the Cummins site.
Also noteworthy is Cummins is developing a V8 diesel that is to be used in Dodge 1/2 tons.
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2004 E-450 6.0 137,500 miles
7,500 mile, 15 quart oil changes, 5W-40 Rotella.
UOAs consist of checking for metal on drain plug magnet. All stock, no mods. Dyed fuel with no additives. Never been reflashed.
Total parts replaced;
one EGR valve.
It's not quite so easy for Ford to just go and throw a Cummins into a truck as it is for somebody like yourself to do it. Also I think it is ignorance on your part to say that an inline will automatically be much better then a V engine.
I know there would be hoops to jump through, but I guess I was just saying what I would like to see. I was also using Cummins as an example, there are a several other engines that ford could use. It is a little difficult to navigate the cummins site but I did see the other day where they have tier 3 compliant 3.9L and 4.5L engines and will have the same engines in tier 4 versions. I am in favor a Ford made diesel, but at the same time, it might not be a bad idea to leave diesel engines to the folks who have built their businesses on them. It worked out good with the powerstroke...until the recent disputes. Anyway, we could go on all day with that argument.
In my OPINION and from experience, I would say that a 4.4L V8 engine would not perform as well in in a truck as a inline 4.4L engine...but I could be wrong. Just saying that there is probably a reason why the majority of diesel engines used in heavy duty applications such as big trucks, construction, industrial, and agricultural applications are inline engines.
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1995 Ford F-150
Black/Silver-Extended Cab-4x4-M5R2
Powered by a 3.9L Cummins 4BT TurboDiesel
[quote=valdor;6662063]mebe theres more to the story like the ongoing (?) legal battle with international (natsar sorry forgot the name) about the manufacture of the 4,4.
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I think that as now Ford has solved the dispute with Navistar we will se both the 4.4 and the 6.7-litre soon. Remember that Navistar will stop supplying Ford with diesels in 11 months. Ford need to ramp up the production before that.
I know there would be hoops to jump through, but I guess I was just saying what I would like to see. I was also using Cummins as an example, there are a several other engines that ford could use. It is a little difficult to navigate the cummins site but I did see the other day where they have tier 3 compliant 3.9L and 4.5L engines and will have the same engines in tier 4 versions. I am in favor a Ford made diesel, but at the same time, it might not be a bad idea to leave diesel engines to the folks who have built their businesses on them. It worked out good with the powerstroke...until the recent disputes. Anyway, we could go on all day with that argument.
In my OPINION and from experience, I would say that a 4.4L V8 engine would not perform as well in in a truck as a inline 4.4L engine...but I could be wrong. Just saying that there is probably a reason why the majority of diesel engines used in heavy duty applications such as big trucks, construction, industrial, and agricultural applications are inline engines.
Any reason in particular you feel the Inline would perform better? I think the biggest reason they are run more in the big trucks is for ease of servicability more then anything. Me personally I have never been a fan of Inline motors, I just grew up with V8's and all of our diesels have been V8's and I've loved them all.
i would buy a half ton diesel. but at the same time, i'm wary of anything diesel in a ford after that POS 6.0. that had to be the worst decision ford ever made... besides the 70's and 80's mustangs....
Motor built by navistar, not ford. New motors to be made by ford, hopefully they will not be plagued the way the last ones were, although my 6.0 is amazing and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
i know, i've just been very wary of anything ford has decided to go with as far as a diesel goes since the 6.0. i drive an 06 at work and we just had to have the engine replaced. and it only had 37 thousand miles on it. i wish i could have talked my boss into sticking the new 6.4 twin turbo in that sucker. but we had to go with what the the dealer said we were entilted to..
i know, i've just been very wary of anything ford has decided to go with as far as a diesel goes since the 6.0. i drive an 06 at work and we just had to have the engine replaced. and it only had 37 thousand miles on it. i wish i could have talked my boss into sticking the new 6.4 twin turbo in that sucker. but we had to go with what the the dealer said we were entilted to..
My 6.0 has almost exactly that, and I'm out of warranty (over 5 years).
Nothing wrong with Cummins...by most accounts they make a pretty solid product. A 3.9 could work if they can tune it up to handle the workload.
As for the hybrid question; Mining for battery materials, and then dealing with the waste has to factor into the equation. I have heard a number of $7K when the Prius batteries need replacing. That is a pretty stiff fee IMO.
I've got a friend who works for gm....who quotes the volt could have been to market two years ago except they've been working on batteries...and they're down to 900 to replace and only weigh in at about 80 lbs........i think hybrids are going to get much much better soon...
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1995 xlt scab - 13 inches of lift - SAS
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