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How to process rough oil???

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New to BD and am working with a friend who has done about 12 batches and is getting good results. However, we were given some old oil that titrates at about 7.5+, probably has pretty much water in it, smell absolutely horrible, etc. We've heated a couple of times and have been letting it sit for a couple of weeks now - also have been adding bits of good oil, pump diesel, etc. to try to help it out some - but allas it is still not great. We are wondering if / how to make good fuel out of it. Any suggestions? We are using KOH and water washing. Please let me know if I need to provide more info as I am new to this whole thing.

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I just found a previous post on this subject and will take the info to my neighbor to see if we can move ahead with the batch - we have 30 gals of that oil so we really don't want to waste it. Any other suggestions are more than welcome.

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I'm working on a WVO cooking tank, with a WVO heater for it.

I have a pump that will constantly circulate the WVO through the filter.

I have always used news paper for filtering. Not sure what micron it is, but has never failed me.
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oil that titrates that high generaly will get less acidic if you filter it down really well. also if you put that stuff in your processor and mix about 10% by volume of good fresh glycerol for about 30 minutes and then let the glycerol settle out and drain it this will tend to drop your titrant # a couple of points. then just process as usual. however if you,ve mixed petro diesel in the batch I don't know how that'll turn out.
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Bad smell means there is bacteria gorwing because there is water. You need to heat the oil for a while until you don't hear the water boiling anymore. It will need to be filtered quit a bit also as the bacteria will be small black dots after you've cooked the oil. It clogs up the filters quick so I use some buckets and metal screens as they can be cleaned or rinsed off easily. After you do that then it's much easier to process. The PH will be a lot better and easier to get a good batch.
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oil that titrates that high generaly will get less acidic if you filter it down really well. also if you put that stuff in your processor and mix about 10% by volume of good fresh glycerol for about 30 minutes and then let the glycerol settle out and drain it this will tend to drop your titrant # a couple of points. then just process as usual. however if you,ve mixed petro diesel in the batch I don't know how that'll turn out.
thanks for the "how to", sometimes that oil that we run into titrates a little high. will keep this in mind.
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