64 F100 original 427 cid
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after reading the artical, they mention falcon seats and a center console, has anyone tried replacing there bench seat with a set of falcon or even mustang seats? as for a center console, one could probably make one up out of wood or fiberglass. i would think that the seat mounts brackets would have to be modified to bolt to the floor. any inputs?
1965/66 Rangers came with standard equipment bucket seats and a center console.
1965/66 Rangers used the console from the 1964/65 Falcon Sprints. It's been reproduced = dearbornclassics/com / catalog, page 47.
The Ranger bucket seats are identical to 1965/70 Mustang buckets, even the upholstery pattern matches (1965/66 only).
These buckets use the same seat tracks as Mustangs used, but...you need four brackets to bolt between the seat tracks to the floor to raise the seats up and level them off.
No one offers the brackets, so something must be fabricated.
The Falcon Sprint bucket seats have the same structure as the 1965/70 Mustang bucket seats, but the upholstery pattern doesn't match.
BRONCO seat brackets will not work, they will not fit because the Bronco's floor is at a different angle than the trucks, and the Bronco seat tracks are Bronco only.
So, the brackets will not bolt to the Mustang seat tracks, or to the trucks floor.
Only the 1966/77 Bronco bucket seats are the same as 1965/70 Mustangs, the tracks and brackets are not the same.
#18
There was a reason The Doors had an album called "Strange Days" in the '60s. Strange things did happen, and this 427 8V truck was one of them. Ford put (or had someone put) 427s into darn near everything.
It was not a production truck, neither were the 427 Thunderbolt Fairlanes, the Mustangs, Comets, what have you. Later on things like the the '66 ('67?) Fairlane were "production" but very limited. Galaxies got 427s as an option you could find in the owners manual....
Were the 427s installed at a/the factory? Yes, just not the Ford assembly line. IMO, the wording "factory 427" could be a little misleading in both cases.
That does not mean that I consider either vehicle junk or worthless.
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If one looks on fords big news flyer to dealers it clearly states
"Now new glamor and comfort for 64 Ford truck custom cabs with optional bostroni bucket seats with center console, Nylon twist carpeting, and special vinyl trim behind the seats. Avalible F100 F250, Red or Black.
DSO-TTMS-0001-IAC4"
So if ford had this on in the ads to the dealers i am pretty sure it existed for 64 model year trucks. Smells like a ranger to me.......And sure looks in the picture like Doug's 64 before the restoration with the buckets and console.
And yes the XL has a factory applied vinyl roof with special one off stainelss steel trim. Remember this truck was built for home office reserve as an experimental unit and was never to be sold to the public...But it was sold much to the dismay of FOMOCO!
Garbz
"Now new glamor and comfort for 64 Ford truck custom cabs with optional bostroni bucket seats with center console, Nylon twist carpeting, and special vinyl trim behind the seats. Avalible F100 F250, Red or Black.
DSO-TTMS-0001-IAC4"
So if ford had this on in the ads to the dealers i am pretty sure it existed for 64 model year trucks. Smells like a ranger to me.......And sure looks in the picture like Doug's 64 before the restoration with the buckets and console.
And yes the XL has a factory applied vinyl roof with special one off stainelss steel trim. Remember this truck was built for home office reserve as an experimental unit and was never to be sold to the public...But it was sold much to the dismay of FOMOCO!
Garbz
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If one looks on fords big news flyer to dealers it clearly states
"Now new glamor and comfort for 64 Ford truck custom cabs with optional bostroni BOSTRUM (not bucket) bucket seats with center console, Nylon twist carpeting, and special vinyl trim behind the seats. Avalible F100 F250, Red or Black.
DSO-TTMS-0001-IAC4"
So if ford had this on in the ads to the dealers i am pretty sure it existed for 64 model year trucks. OK, prove it.Smells like a ranger to me.......And sure looks in the picture like Doug's 64 before the restoration with the buckets and console.
Ford made announcements like this all the time, but that didn't mean they built any. You also cannot go by sales brochures either.
And yes the XL has a factory applied vinyl roof with special one off stainelss steel trim. Remember this truck was built for home office reserve as an experimental unit and was never to be sold to the public...But it was sold much to the dismay of FOMOCO!
Garbz
"Now new glamor and comfort for 64 Ford truck custom cabs with optional bostroni BOSTRUM (not bucket) bucket seats with center console, Nylon twist carpeting, and special vinyl trim behind the seats. Avalible F100 F250, Red or Black.
DSO-TTMS-0001-IAC4"
So if ford had this on in the ads to the dealers i am pretty sure it existed for 64 model year trucks. OK, prove it.Smells like a ranger to me.......And sure looks in the picture like Doug's 64 before the restoration with the buckets and console.
Ford made announcements like this all the time, but that didn't mean they built any. You also cannot go by sales brochures either.
And yes the XL has a factory applied vinyl roof with special one off stainelss steel trim. Remember this truck was built for home office reserve as an experimental unit and was never to be sold to the public...But it was sold much to the dismay of FOMOCO!
Garbz
That so called 1964 Ranger at the Western Nats is a FAKE!
The owner admitted as such to Don (camperspecial65) and myself that he had it made up (the bucket seats are from an MG TD).
Then after we walked away, he told the fellow (Carl) that had that 1967 F250 parked next to it, that it had the Galaxie option. Carl laughed in his face, telling him there was no such thing as a Galaxie option for trucks.
Carl should know, besides his 1967 F250, he's owned many a Galaxie over the past 30 years, and like myself, is a Ford historian and a member of SoCal Galaxies.
Dave, you're beating a dead horse, because there's not one shred of proof that Ford made a 1964 Ranger = none!
btw: Bostrom seats are not bucket seats. Yes, they were an option on all F Series trucks, but these are bolted to a pedestal, and have a spring loaded device built into the seat to cushion the ride, as these same seats were mostly seen in BIG trucks.
#22
Well............
Sounds like a Ford Mystery to me....
We all know them parts books are not reliable...According to the parts book the XL does not exist either but yet there it is. complete with documentation back to 63 in magazines and photographic glory....
LOL
No additional X Ls were produced for 64 so possible the "sporty" got nixed as well. but it clearly offers it in the dealer flier.
May not have been called a ranger but it sure is the precursor of the ranger for 65.....
Garbz
Sounds like a Ford Mystery to me....
We all know them parts books are not reliable...According to the parts book the XL does not exist either but yet there it is. complete with documentation back to 63 in magazines and photographic glory....
LOL
No additional X Ls were produced for 64 so possible the "sporty" got nixed as well. but it clearly offers it in the dealer flier.
May not have been called a ranger but it sure is the precursor of the ranger for 65.....
Garbz
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The price of the XL is.... astronomical. IF you could buy it.
Henry Ford Museum has first dibs.
When Bill is good and ready to sell it.
Which, he isn't.
Yes it HAS a vinyl roof.
I spoke to Doug extensively at Slickstock in Kansas City. His truck is NOT a fake, he faithfully reproduced all the original 1964 equipment the truck came with. It has Mustang covers on the original (Ford, not MG) buckets.The one thing he did, was make his own Ranger emblems to fit the hood badges, which originally said 100. Then, he drove this summer from Riverside to Kansas City and back. No problems. Beautiful running truck, I had the pleasure of riding in it.
I agree with Garbz, just because it isn't in the parts book doesn't mean it didn't exist. Ford Boy Pete has many a story to tell about the factory 390 trucks built in 65/66 for Ford execs who had the "In".
Ford has always done things like that. I had QUITE a discussion with Hawkrod about the Factory glovebox clock I had in a '40 Ford truck. I spoke to the original owner's daughter, who actually RECOGNIZED the truck because of that. She said her father, a Ford dealer, ordered it that way. It's the ONLY one she or I have ever seen. Bet that ain't in the Parts book either.
Henry Ford Museum has first dibs.
When Bill is good and ready to sell it.
Which, he isn't.
Yes it HAS a vinyl roof.
I spoke to Doug extensively at Slickstock in Kansas City. His truck is NOT a fake, he faithfully reproduced all the original 1964 equipment the truck came with. It has Mustang covers on the original (Ford, not MG) buckets.The one thing he did, was make his own Ranger emblems to fit the hood badges, which originally said 100. Then, he drove this summer from Riverside to Kansas City and back. No problems. Beautiful running truck, I had the pleasure of riding in it.
I agree with Garbz, just because it isn't in the parts book doesn't mean it didn't exist. Ford Boy Pete has many a story to tell about the factory 390 trucks built in 65/66 for Ford execs who had the "In".
Ford has always done things like that. I had QUITE a discussion with Hawkrod about the Factory glovebox clock I had in a '40 Ford truck. I spoke to the original owner's daughter, who actually RECOGNIZED the truck because of that. She said her father, a Ford dealer, ordered it that way. It's the ONLY one she or I have ever seen. Bet that ain't in the Parts book either.
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#25
Good luck as Ford threw all the crap out.....A marti report is only from 67 up.
Just copy the info on Chuck Brandts site with permission of course..... All or most that is known is there.
Another source is legendary ford magazine. they did an article on the XL 2 years ago. About the most comphrensive so far.
Garbz
Just copy the info on Chuck Brandts site with permission of course..... All or most that is known is there.
Another source is legendary ford magazine. they did an article on the XL 2 years ago. About the most comphrensive so far.
Garbz
#26
I once saw a '65 Mustang that had a 427 engine in it. The original owner claims that he purchased it new that way......and in a way, he did. Seems that a Ford dealer installed the engine in the new car and then sold it that way. Was it factory? No....but the 427 truck really isn't factory either, even though both vehicles could be worth a lot of money if the paperwork could be found.
Were the 427s installed at a/the factory? Yes, just not the Ford assembly line. IMO, the wording "factory 427" could be a little misleading in both cases.
That does not mean that I consider either vehicle junk or worthless.
Were the 427s installed at a/the factory? Yes, just not the Ford assembly line. IMO, the wording "factory 427" could be a little misleading in both cases.
That does not mean that I consider either vehicle junk or worthless.
As for factory support/influence/direct involvement, I think there were lots of support combo's in the day, from dealers to the factory to pure privateer efforts. Every car has a story....
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There were 427 '65s and '66s running "A/FX" class at the drags. A '65/'66 needs major surgery to accept a 427 or any FE. Some of these also had straight axles under them, and there were also SOHC 427 Mustangs of that vintage, but they had tube frame type front ends as they SOHC was far too wide for the engine bay of an early Mustang.
As for factory support/influence/direct involvement, I think there were lots of support combo's in the day, from dealers to the factory to pure privateer efforts. Every car has a story....
As for factory support/influence/direct involvement, I think there were lots of support combo's in the day, from dealers to the factory to pure privateer efforts. Every car has a story....
Vehicles modified outside of the factory will not appear in Ford parts books. You guys are enjoying the peeing contest splater you are causing, way toooo much.
John
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