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Old 08-05-2014, 11:51 AM
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If you have a 2 valve its not cam phasers. If its only noisy when cold check for broken exhaust manifold studs. Don't worry about only using motorcraft oil. Its just a brand. Use any brand you want as long as it meets the specification for your vehicle.

Thanks for the input cb 13, I'll check the exaust manifold and keep digging around.
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:01 AM
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Hello everyone. I read the whole 16 pages of this subject. I got an used 2001 F150 5.4 screw with 160k miles on it. When I test drove it there was no ticking noise. I have the truck now for 2 months and it started doing it but mine does it on cold start. I can hear it coming from the passenger side and it can be hear from the passenger wheel well. the ticking only happens if I put the truck in gear and after I let it sit for about 5-10 mins I can't hear it anymore. It is the same after I drive a few miles the noise is gone. If it is not in gear I can't hear at idle or even if I rev up.

From I have learned my truck is a 2v and doesn't have cam phasers. It almost sounds like an exhaust leak to me. I'm going to remove the passenger side wheel well cover and look better.

I have done the spark plugs, oil change to castrol 5w20 and motorcraft filter, I cleaned the MAF, TB, air intake and IAC. There is no codes or SES light with my scanner.

This is my first post and from all the threads I have read this site seems more friendly and has a lot of more knowledge than the other site I joined. I really love this truck but I already have to save for a tranny in the future and I want to make sure it is not a major issue in the engine since i don't have warranty. The truck is a daily driver.
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:10 PM
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Just picked up an '05 5.4 with about 90K on it. Immediately heard a "tap". I put a quart of Marvel Mystery Oil in it and ran it for about 1/2 hour. Then changed the oil out with full synthetic and 1 Qt of Lucas synthetic oil treatment. Tap stopped but now I can hear a faint "tick". Thought it might be an injector. Seems to be coming off Left side of the motor towards rear...
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Mines been chattering since 2007, just yesterday I tried the motor medic flush - let it run for 10 mins, changed the oil and filter, and put royal purple along with Risolone additive (yellow bottle) that helps with noisy lifters.

So far it has been noticeably quieter. I would give it a shot just for the heck of it the motor medic and Risolone only cost 10$ together.

Good luck.
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Old 10-28-2014, 05:43 PM
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So I too just went through all 16 pages. I picked up my 2000 f-150 super cab a month ago and it had the tick sound that I thought was phasers. Seeing as it needed an oil change, I got a motorcraft filter and rotella 15w40 since others had tried it. Since the change it seems quiet on cold idle, but much louder under 2k rpms when warmed up. Should I give it more time or go to the 5w20? It's a knocking/ tick sound. When I bought the truck the previous owner said it's been that way for 5 years no issues. New plugs too. I know its louder after the oil change though.
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Old 11-03-2014, 11:28 AM
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Hello all.

I posted a while back about my 2004 Expy 5.4l 2v with about 132,000 miles. I have the ticking everone is talking about but mine doesn't have cam phasers. The ticking has become more of a knocking. I changed the oil recently (5w 20 MC and MC filter) and substituted 2 quarts for Lucas "oil conditioner". For the first 2 months it seemed to work pretty good. There was a knock at start up but it quickly subsided once the oil started lubing the motor. Now however, the knock is pretty constant and I have stalled out a couple of times. There is no check engine light and I'm not getting any codes on the plug in reader. I change oil regularly, have changed the spark plugs twice now since I bought the truck in 2005, flushed the radiator, cleaned the upper intake, cleaned the innards with an oil additive prior to last oil change, checked the air filter, replaced the fuel filter, run a fuel additive through the system, checked the exaust bolts, lines and hoses regularly and I haven't noticed anythig loose, broken, or unusualy dirty. anyone have any ideas what the problem might be?
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Old 11-03-2014, 11:52 AM
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Hello all.

I posted a while back about my 2004 Expy 5.4l 2v with about 132,000 miles. I have the ticking everone is talking about but mine doesn't have cam phasers. The ticking has become more of a knocking. I changed the oil recently (5w 20 MC and MC filter) and substituted 2 quarts for Lucas "oil conditioner". For the first 2 months it seemed to work pretty good. There was a knock at start up but it quickly subsided once the oil started lubing the motor. Now however, the knock is pretty constant and I have stalled out a couple of times. There is no check engine light and I'm not getting any codes on the plug in reader. I change oil regularly, have changed the spark plugs twice now since I bought the truck in 2005, flushed the radiator, cleaned the upper intake, cleaned the innards with an oil additive prior to last oil change, checked the air filter, replaced the fuel filter, run a fuel additive through the system, checked the exaust bolts, lines and hoses regularly and I haven't noticed anythig loose, broken, or unusualy dirty. anyone have any ideas what the problem might be?
Almost forgot, there is some oil/grease build up on the sides of both valve covers. It apeers to be slowly creeping up to the center on both sides. Additionaly, I have not seen the blue cloud of death from the exaust pipe so I'm hopfull that this can be fixed. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 11-04-2014, 02:18 PM
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Quick update,

just got back from the Ford dealer. Three different mechanics told me that the engine sounds normal for a 5.4L with over 100,000 miles on it. They suggested I run a tank of premium fuel every 2nd or 3rd fill up, use Lucas oil conditioner as needed, change the air filter and the oil often, and drive on.

Anyone have any other ideas?
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Old 11-04-2014, 02:39 PM
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Quick update,

just got back from the Ford dealer. Three different mechanics told me that the engine sounds normal for a 5.4L with over 100,000 miles on it. They suggested I run a tank of premium fuel every 2nd or 3rd fill up, use Lucas oil conditioner as needed, change the air filter and the oil often, and drive on.

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premium does nothing for your engine. the compression ration of a 5.4 is too low to make use of the extra octane......what premium will do in a medium compression engine is increase carbon deposts.

any yes, the sound is a normally occuring one in ford 5.4 engines. do the maint according to your service type, drive it til it dies.
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5W20

I don't post here much but I do have a long background in lubrication.
I can tell you that the ONLY reason Ford or any other auto manufacturer uses a 20 weight oil is to pass Federal Cafe fuel economy regs. for the vehicle type. If the vehicle can not pass the Cafe MPG, the manufacturer is fined.
If you want your engine to last, use at least a 5W30 motor oil. Using a 20 weight oil in a hot climate is a recipe for disaster in the long run.
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If you want your engine to last, use at least a 5W30 motor oil. Using a 20 weight oil in a hot climate is a recipe for disaster in the long run.[/QUOTE]

That's a good joke. Too bad we've all heard it before.
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Old 01-21-2015, 12:24 AM
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I replaced cam phaser and did timing chain kit also spark plugs with a livernois kit 1300$ no ticks works great
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I wasn't aware everyone on this forum was so informed. I'll just step back in the shadows and be quiet.
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Sounds like cb13 knows all there is needs too know

He's the guy that says well my" mechanic buddy said "
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My 2004 5.4 started ticking from the right valve train a few thousand miles ago, loud enough to sound like an exhaust leak, but it was definitely coming from the valve train. Local mechanic wasn't willing to tear into it, so went to Ford. They confirmed that it's valve or lifter noise and called it 'not unreasonable' for a 5.4 with 60K miles on it. Wow, so sounding like a clapped out school bus is 'normal' after 60K. No wonder Ford is tanking in the marketplace...

Anyway, service manager said not to fix it now, because the 5.4s they worked on in the past for this were a mixed bag. Sometimes, replacing lifters fixed it, sometimes it also required valves, and one never did stop ticking until they replaced the whole motor. He said those engines are notoriously persnickety, and to just keep driving it until the noise becomes too annoying, then think about tearing into it.

I know from searching here that lots of folks have dealt with ticking 5.4s. Anyone just keep driving theirs with the tick? I'm wondering how long before I'm looking at an expensive repair...

My 2005 F-150 currently has 220,000 miles on it. It's still running pretty good, I was advised the noise is caused by the cam phasers. It's had that annoying clacking for as long as I can remember. So no fear, at 60K I would imagine your truck still has a lot of life left! My best recommendation is I substitute 1 qt of oil for a bottle of Lucas oil stabilizer treatment. Runs smoother, quieter and burns through less oil with it. Best of luck!
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