I'm looking forward to that.

 

yeah desert play thats the best kind! hey steve i was out at el mirage this past weekend, they have a large building goin in on that road that leads to the lake bed thats just off the highway. Gunna be a visitor center and all. Gunna cost 18 bucks for a day pass, 15 or 18 i don't remember exactly, i just remember it was a lot! too bad... sorry to hijack an anti hijacking thread!

 

Yep, I was out last thursday.
Effective October 1, 2008 at El Mirage.
$15 for a one day permit, valid from dawn to dusk
$30 for a weekly permit, valid for 7 days
$90 for an annual permit, valid from October 1, 2008 - September 30, 2009

BLM started collecting fees at Dumont a couple years back, now El Mirage, and I am sure places like Rasor Road and Johnson Valley will follow suit as well. And now there is talk about closing Dumont Dunes much the same way the Kelso Dunes were closed back in the 70s.

It's a shame the government has to be so involved. I mean, did El Mirage really need a visitors center?

Sorry to continue hijacking this thread

 

seriously, people who hit up el mirage dont go there for the scenery! its too bad, and they will prolly start shrinking the boundaries and eventually close it down as well...too bad...

 

Ahhh, El Mirage!

I recall when they banned shooting shotguns stating it was hazardous to the Ultra-Light aircraft that were sometimes flown out there. Nobody ever got shot, injured, or even shot AT, but it was an excuse. I believe they banned all shooting now.

Look for more fees as the State tries to find revenue for their spending habits.

It's amazing how this state has grown in population and the access shrinks in tandem.

 

I can't see them closing the place down, particularly if it becomes a revenue producer.

SCTA would lobby hard to prevent that.

 

Unfortunatley, I can see them shutting it down.

They closed 32,000+ acres down at Glamis back in 1994, and now the US Fish and Wildlife Service along with the Center for Biological Diversity are pushing HARD to get Dumont closed because of the fringe toed lizard, which is exclusive to the area. And I thought the 3.6 million acres alone in the Southern California desert would be enough for the government to designate as 'wilderness.'

The BLM collects just over $1 million annually at Dumont alone, but it all goes back into to Dumont, mostly on law enforcement and medical response. So in other words, no one benefits from the fees, except the users.
And in the case of El Mirage, we have a beautiful, state-of-the-art visitors center.

Hers is what I want to know: Where does the green sticker money go now that we have to pay additional fees at each riding spot?

 

That's a good question.

 

i dont quite understand the green sticker red sticker deal...what is it? i know its only for motorcycles but i dont get the differences

 

Green strickers are for 4-strokes, Red stickers are for 2-strokes. 2-strokes are 'gross polluters' in Enviro-Wacko speak.

From our friends at the DMV: Red and Green Stickers

 

Yep, the red sticker is for 2-strokes. Like Russ said, supposedly they spit out too much bad stuff. CA says you can only operate them during riding season only, typically October - May, although there are a few places you can ride year round.

 

haha my anti hijacking thread got hijacked ....

GOD WHATS THE WORLD COMING TO LOL

...as for that, it's just another way for the govt to get there paws into everything...i say if its not broken dont try to fix it...

 

ha yeah sorry bout the thread hijacking! but it seemed kinda dead in here and i was too lazy to start a new one so ha!

 

Ha I am sure I didn't help with the thread highjacking either.

But to answer the original question: My truck is definitely not a show truck. It gets just about everything thrown at it, work, play you name it, even an occasional night on the town, haha.

 

lol its good i dont mind....Im bored outta my mind neways and it is pretty dead in here