09' Assembly Line
#46
Still find it hard to understand why you say the engine is a joke??? For what reason?? You just keep saying it's a joke but you have no valid reason as to why it's a joke. It cant be reliability because its a proven engine. It cant be power as it can pull more than the rest and has Tq figures that should be able to cope with 99% of what people are towing with it. It has the same figures for MPG as the other Brands. The only reason you seem to base that it's a joke engine is because it's got less HP lol. It's a truck my friend. How many times do people have to tell you. It needs TQ not HP. If it was a light weight sports car then you would have a valid point but it's a truck. No more, no less.
One has a new Tundra(07) and my other buddy has a 2006 F150 FX4 with the 5.4 in it.
The Toyota just blows him away in every aspect and especially towing. It's not even close.
The drivetrain of the Tundra is so superior it's not even funny.
Unloaded the difference is even worse and the Toyota with it's 380 HP gets at least 2 MPG's better all around.
It seems like Ford's Torque over HP really isn't cutting it in the real world. It's all Ford has to go on and they need to keep spouting it since that's all they have.
It's good for the kooliad Ford drinkers.
#47
It doesn't pull more than the rest. Ford can come up with any inflated figures they want but I see it in person. Two of my friends have trucks I have driven quite a bit. We all hunt together and they both pull the same exact trailers.
One has a new Tundra(07) and my other buddy has a 2006 F150 FX4 with the 5.4 in it.
The Toyota just blows him away in every aspect and especially towing. It's not even close.
The drivetrain of the Tundra is so superior it's not even funny.
Unloaded the difference is even worse and the Toyota with it's 380 HP gets at least 2 MPG's better all around.
It seems like Ford's Torque over HP really isn't cutting it in the real world. It's all Ford has to go on and they need to keep spouting it since that's all they have.
It's good for the kooliad Ford drinkers.
One has a new Tundra(07) and my other buddy has a 2006 F150 FX4 with the 5.4 in it.
The Toyota just blows him away in every aspect and especially towing. It's not even close.
The drivetrain of the Tundra is so superior it's not even funny.
Unloaded the difference is even worse and the Toyota with it's 380 HP gets at least 2 MPG's better all around.
It seems like Ford's Torque over HP really isn't cutting it in the real world. It's all Ford has to go on and they need to keep spouting it since that's all they have.
It's good for the kooliad Ford drinkers.
#48
LOL- you say that you purchased a "Platinum 09 f150" because it was "tryed (sic) and tested". But weren't you just telling us how many changes have been made? So is it "tried and tested" or is it substantially different (assumed to be improved) from the '08s?
I'm a Ford fan and, because of that, I refuse to sit back and let them play the paper tiger game while the competition continually improves their real-world offerings leaving the F150 further behind. Ford has screwed the pooch with the '09 F150 and we can only hope that they rectify the situation in 2010 with new powertrain offerings that can compete with those from GM and Toyota.
Of course, if you're really just looking for that one-piece instrument panel backing, FoMoCo has EXACTLY what you want!
I'm a Ford fan and, because of that, I refuse to sit back and let them play the paper tiger game while the competition continually improves their real-world offerings leaving the F150 further behind. Ford has screwed the pooch with the '09 F150 and we can only hope that they rectify the situation in 2010 with new powertrain offerings that can compete with those from GM and Toyota.
Of course, if you're really just looking for that one-piece instrument panel backing, FoMoCo has EXACTLY what you want!
#49
Man, i just love this! People calling the 5.4 "junk" because it doesn't make a truck drive like a Mustang...
See, the way I see it...the only way a TRUCK can fall behind the competition is when it can't do things that the rest can. I'm not talking about 1/4 mile times here, either.
First, let's look at towing. Everyone likes to bring up how ford inflates their numbers. Well, I for one, have towed a trailer right at the limit of my '07s "inflated" capability...and believe me, I had no troubles. No sway problems, no control problems, no POWER problems...but then again...I didn't expect it to drive like a Mustang, either.
Payload...hrmmm...Ford's about the best across the board...
Fuel economy...the 21 highway with the 4.6 3V/2wd is about the best out there....
Now what else is a truck need? Why are people calling the F150 "junk" when it exceeds the capabilities of everyone else's truck...but doesn't drive like a Mustang?
See, the way I see it...the only way a TRUCK can fall behind the competition is when it can't do things that the rest can. I'm not talking about 1/4 mile times here, either.
First, let's look at towing. Everyone likes to bring up how ford inflates their numbers. Well, I for one, have towed a trailer right at the limit of my '07s "inflated" capability...and believe me, I had no troubles. No sway problems, no control problems, no POWER problems...but then again...I didn't expect it to drive like a Mustang, either.
Payload...hrmmm...Ford's about the best across the board...
Fuel economy...the 21 highway with the 4.6 3V/2wd is about the best out there....
Now what else is a truck need? Why are people calling the F150 "junk" when it exceeds the capabilities of everyone else's truck...but doesn't drive like a Mustang?
#50
LOL- you say that you purchased a "Platinum 09 f150" because it was "tryed (sic) and tested". But weren't you just telling us how many changes have been made? So is it "tried and tested" or is it substantially different (assumed to be improved) from the '08s?
I'm a Ford fan and, because of that, I refuse to sit back and let them play the paper tiger game while the competition continually improves their real-world offerings leaving the F150 further behind. Ford has screwed the pooch with the '09 F150 and we can only hope that they rectify the situation in 2010 with new powertrain offerings that can compete with those from GM and Toyota.
Of course, if you're really just looking for that one-piece instrument panel backing, FoMoCo has EXACTLY what you want!
I'm a Ford fan and, because of that, I refuse to sit back and let them play the paper tiger game while the competition continually improves their real-world offerings leaving the F150 further behind. Ford has screwed the pooch with the '09 F150 and we can only hope that they rectify the situation in 2010 with new powertrain offerings that can compete with those from GM and Toyota.
Of course, if you're really just looking for that one-piece instrument panel backing, FoMoCo has EXACTLY what you want!
No what im saying is the ford f150 is a proven truck. Sales show that. Im just hopeing that the 09 is going to be as good a truck as the 08 f150 was even with the new updates. Im very sure it will still be the best truck money can buy. This is Why i wouldnt spend my money on either of the other brands after researching it over the last 3 months. They have always being following ford with sales and always will by the looks of it. Also since i have been in the US i have never seen a Nissan Titan, Toyota tundra or Dodge ram on any building site i have worked. 90% of them have been fords and you see the ocasinoal Chevy and GM. The only time i see The tundra's and Nissan is at lowes when the weekend warriors come out and most of them are over 50 and have disabeld plates. Workers dont buy the other brands for a reason. A small minority will of course. I didnt want a ford until i see how much better a truck they were for work.
#51
I've towed way above the inflated numbers (50% above) and I assure you the numbers are not inflated...mine towed 13000 lbs just fine...
#52
Some of these posts just amuse the heck out of me.
I'm one of apparently very, very few people on this site who has driven an '09. Not just one of them, but likely every version, every configuration of what's going to be offered to the public, and for quite a few thousand miles too. I could spend hours refuting the vast majority of the nonsense I've seen spouted here, but I'm not going to go into specifics, because I'm contractually bound not to and it would be lost on folks who would just rather argue for the sake of it.
This is a better truck in every way than the 04-08, and it will be apparent as soon as you step into it. Trust me. I know what's on the market, and what it will be up against. I've driven all of the competitive vehicles. Ford has put a lot of effort in making this the best choice in the market, easily as much as they did for 2004. Don't even begin to think that they've been wringing their hands over the way the truck market has broken, or that they've just been biding their time waiting for it to turn. Every time the segment shrinks, Ford expands its share of it, because FORD KNOWS ITS MARKET BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE. If you don't believe that, you don't belong on a Ford Truck Enthusiasts site.
I'm one of apparently very, very few people on this site who has driven an '09. Not just one of them, but likely every version, every configuration of what's going to be offered to the public, and for quite a few thousand miles too. I could spend hours refuting the vast majority of the nonsense I've seen spouted here, but I'm not going to go into specifics, because I'm contractually bound not to and it would be lost on folks who would just rather argue for the sake of it.
This is a better truck in every way than the 04-08, and it will be apparent as soon as you step into it. Trust me. I know what's on the market, and what it will be up against. I've driven all of the competitive vehicles. Ford has put a lot of effort in making this the best choice in the market, easily as much as they did for 2004. Don't even begin to think that they've been wringing their hands over the way the truck market has broken, or that they've just been biding their time waiting for it to turn. Every time the segment shrinks, Ford expands its share of it, because FORD KNOWS ITS MARKET BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE. If you don't believe that, you don't belong on a Ford Truck Enthusiasts site.
#53
Some of these posts just amuse the heck out of me.
I'm one of apparently very, very few people on this site who has driven an '09. Not just one of them, but likely every version, every configuration of what's going to be offered to the public, and for quite a few thousand miles too. I could spend hours refuting the vast majority of the nonsense I've seen spouted here, but I'm not going to go into specifics, because I'm contractually bound not to and it would be lost on folks who would just rather argue for the sake of it.
This is a better truck in every way than the 04-08, and it will be apparent as soon as you step into it. Trust me. I know what's on the market, and what it will be up against. I've driven all of the competitive vehicles. Ford has put a lot of effort in making this the best choice in the market, easily as much as they did for 2004. Don't even begin to think that they've been wringing their hands over the way the truck market has broken, or that they've just been biding their time waiting for it to turn. Every time the segment shrinks, Ford expands its share of it, because FORD KNOWS ITS MARKET BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE. If you don't believe that, you don't belong on a Ford Truck Enthusiasts site.
I'm one of apparently very, very few people on this site who has driven an '09. Not just one of them, but likely every version, every configuration of what's going to be offered to the public, and for quite a few thousand miles too. I could spend hours refuting the vast majority of the nonsense I've seen spouted here, but I'm not going to go into specifics, because I'm contractually bound not to and it would be lost on folks who would just rather argue for the sake of it.
This is a better truck in every way than the 04-08, and it will be apparent as soon as you step into it. Trust me. I know what's on the market, and what it will be up against. I've driven all of the competitive vehicles. Ford has put a lot of effort in making this the best choice in the market, easily as much as they did for 2004. Don't even begin to think that they've been wringing their hands over the way the truck market has broken, or that they've just been biding their time waiting for it to turn. Every time the segment shrinks, Ford expands its share of it, because FORD KNOWS ITS MARKET BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE. If you don't believe that, you don't belong on a Ford Truck Enthusiasts site.
Hear Hear
#54
I can not wait to get mine, I ordered it in June. I have an order number and partial VIN - now all I need is the truck. I am waiting, very impatiently, but waiting.
I bought the 04 when it came out and now have the 06 and I have been really really pleased, they just seem to get better. I have also owned in the past the 2000 and the 2002.
I have heard some great things about the 09 and can not wait to see it for myself.
Are there 1 or 2 plants building the 09? I have heard there was only 1 plant building. Which plants are they? I am just curious. I believe my other trucks came from Norfolk (?) but not sure can not remember.
Deb
I bought the 04 when it came out and now have the 06 and I have been really really pleased, they just seem to get better. I have also owned in the past the 2000 and the 2002.
I have heard some great things about the 09 and can not wait to see it for myself.
Are there 1 or 2 plants building the 09? I have heard there was only 1 plant building. Which plants are they? I am just curious. I believe my other trucks came from Norfolk (?) but not sure can not remember.
Deb
#55
I can not wait to get mine, I ordered it in June. I have an order number and partial VIN - now all I need is the truck. I am waiting, very impatiently, but waiting.
I bought the 04 when it came out and now have the 06 and I have been really really pleased, they just seem to get better. I have also owned in the past the 2000 and the 2002.
I have heard some great things about the 09 and can not wait to see it for myself.
Are there 1 or 2 plants building the 09? I have heard there was only 1 plant building. Which plants are they? I am just curious. I believe my order trucks came from Norfolk (?) but not sure can not remember.
Deb
I bought the 04 when it came out and now have the 06 and I have been really really pleased, they just seem to get better. I have also owned in the past the 2000 and the 2002.
I have heard some great things about the 09 and can not wait to see it for myself.
Are there 1 or 2 plants building the 09? I have heard there was only 1 plant building. Which plants are they? I am just curious. I believe my order trucks came from Norfolk (?) but not sure can not remember.
Deb
#57
Congrats on joining the ultimate truck club. Make sure ya keep us updated with expected del dates and post some pics. Would be nice to get a good thread up on here with some detailed pics for people to check out.
#58
I can not wait to get mine, I ordered it in June. I have an order number and partial VIN - now all I need is the truck. I am waiting, very impatiently, but waiting.
I bought the 04 when it came out and now have the 06 and I have been really really pleased, they just seem to get better. I have also owned in the past the 2000 and the 2002.
I have heard some great things about the 09 and can not wait to see it for myself.
Are there 1 or 2 plants building the 09? I have heard there was only 1 plant building. Which plants are they? I am just curious. I believe my other trucks came from Norfolk (?) but not sure can not remember.
Deb
I bought the 04 when it came out and now have the 06 and I have been really really pleased, they just seem to get better. I have also owned in the past the 2000 and the 2002.
I have heard some great things about the 09 and can not wait to see it for myself.
Are there 1 or 2 plants building the 09? I have heard there was only 1 plant building. Which plants are they? I am just curious. I believe my other trucks came from Norfolk (?) but not sure can not remember.
Deb
#60
I hope it's a blockbuster for Ford, though. The F150 is Ford's bread and butter, and good F150 sales mean a healthy Ford.
I've said this before, but I'll say it again: I believe that the '09 is as big a departure from the '04 as the '04 was from the '97. This is no mid-model run refresh, like some folks here seem to think it is.