Aluminum heads, new designs, less emissions, more horsepower, more mpg??? What do they want out of these engines. You can't have it all. These companies are putting too much strain on these new engines, you can't get but so much out of them, something is going to tear up. IMHO, I don't think these engines are going to worth a quarter, especially not when they first come out. I know for sure that I don't want one.
I wouldn't have any problems getting the first one off the assembly line myself. I love knew products and especially diesel engines. My early 6.0 is still fantastic after 210k km's.
I agree with Andy, the manufacturers are asking way to much out of these engines. 400 hp is rediculous for a pickup. It just costs too much money to build the rest of the drive to handle it and that cost is passed on to me and you. I think 250-300 hp is still plenty. If you really need that much power then buy a semi.
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In all honesty it depends on what your towing and where you towing it that helps determine if the hp/tq numbers for what you listed are enough to handle it. Now yes the surrounding truck also has to be able to handle it, but just because 250-300 hp is good enough to handle Iowa terrain while towing doesn't really mean that it could handle everywhere's terrain. Just like a four banger might do wonderful in some locations, but crappy in others because of the terrain.
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If you really need that much power then buy a semi.
I'm pretty sure I know the point that you trying to make but it's not that simple as that unfortunately.
I wouldn't have any problems getting the first one off the assembly line myself. I love knew products and especially diesel engines. My early 6.0 is still fantastic after 210k km's.
I agree with Andy, the manufacturers are asking way to much out of these engines. 400 hp is rediculous for a pickup. It just costs too much money to build the rest of the drive to handle it and that cost is passed on to me and you. I think 250-300 hp is still plenty. If you really need that much power then buy a semi.
Agreed only so much you can tow with these trucks regardless of the power. Its cool you have 600hp doesnt mean you can tow 80000lbs and control it. All i know is 20 years from now the ol 7.3L will still be makin noise under the hood.
Color me skeptical... I'm glad I have a 2009 American made Navistar 6.4 on it's way to me right now.
There's a reason the big three have always gone outside for diesels.
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This makes so much sense for a turbocharged engine. I'm trying to visualize what the engine will look like, you think there will be intake runners to each cylinder or some type of manifold on each side?
The industrial diesels I have had to work on - all have this design.
For packaging reasons, its much neater, you have have the turbo's sitting in the valley between the two banks, close to the exhaust ports.
Especially given where the Powerstrokes have always had their turbo's it makes a lot more sense.
This is one of the Cummins generators that I was referring too - (obviously the packaging won't be so neat - they will still need an intercooler on a PSD!)
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Valley exiting exhaust makes a lot of sense. Much shorter path to turbo. Less heat loss under bonnet. Less heat into firewall. Possibly shorter overall engine length. I wonder if the turbo will be a dual entry unit like some of the old Cat 3208's. Would be logical.
Intake manifolds could be fed from two exits from the intercooler, one each side. That would simplify that.
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