I thought you'd all be interested in the photos we just got in of the 2009.5 Ford F-150 Diesel out testing. We also got some info on power, by our early source info we've estimated 350 hp/450 lb-ft of torque. Enjoy.
Fantastic article!! I knew there was a good reason why my loving bride said no to the phenominal deal that I made on the '08 Screw! I would never get the diesel, but the gas engines in the '09 generation trucks will be better than ever. If the power and MPG numbers are accurate, then the remaining piece to the be solved will be the additional cost of the option.
Gas Hybrid technology has already come under heavy fire from Consumer Reports and Edmunds as not being a cost effective option for the price conscious consumer, also saying that the technology will take a five year time frame to realize a break even point.
This 4.4L diesel could very well take longer than that. I've never heard of UREA until a few months ago. Where can one find it and how much per fill up?
Will the HD package be available on a gasser?
Tim
__________________ Retired Coasty Country Boy from Stockton Springs, Maine '04 Expedition ( Family Car) '99 Taurus. Former family car '88 F-150 4x4 XLT Lariat 5.8L 5Spd '90 Honda Civic (daughter's car) 37 mpg
Gas Hybrid technology has already come under heavy fire from Consumer Reports and Edmunds as not being a cost effective option for the price conscious consumer, also saying that the technology will take a five year time frame to realize a break even point.
Tim
That's based on 15000 miles a year. I can tell you that based on commuting 30,000 miles per year, that a hybrid pays off in 2.5 years. And that calculation was based on $3.70 a gallon gas, not $4.
As for the 4.4 L diesel just having 20% better fuel economy, that would be 18 mpg city and 23-24 mpg highway, which I suppose is ok.
The F150 used to come with a 302 that was something like 190 hp on a good day.
Why not make the 4.4 a V6 (like a 3.6 liter), so instead of 350 hp and 400 ft-lbs of torque, it would make something like 210, and 300 ft-lbs, and maybe get 28 mpg?
I think GM, Fomoco, and Chrysler LLC are stuck in the dark ages, where for some strange reason it is sheer heresy to have a 1/2 ton truck with less than 300 hp. This is not necessary and overkill in today's market environment.
The F150 used to come with a 302 that was something like 190 hp on a good day.
Why not make the 4.4 a V6 (like a 3.6 liter), so instead of 350 hp and 400 ft-lbs of torque, it would make something like 210, and 300 ft-lbs, and maybe get 28 mpg?
I think GM, Fomoco, and Chrysler LLC are stuck in the dark ages, where for some strange reason it is sheer heresy to have a 1/2 ton truck with less than 300 hp. This is not necessary and overkill in today's market environment.
Forewarning that Fosters may be all over that post of yours.
__________________ Justin
2006 Ford F-150 SuperCrew XLT Chrome Edition
5.4L Flex-Fuel, 3.73LS, 18" Stock Rims, 18" BFG Rugged Trail T/A's, Trailer Tow Pkg
Sun/Moonroof, Fog Lamps, Ford Bedliner
Lund Headlight & Taillight Covers, Lund VentVisors
Forewarning that Fosters may be all over that post of yours.
Probably, but he's got a point, to those who said truck sales wouldn't drop off that much....I've noticed most of them have shut up the last few months. 4 dollar a gallon gas is making people think about a new truck.....and the companies will HAVE to make a change soon
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Probably, but he's got a point, to those who said truck sales wouldn't drop off that much....I've noticed most of them have shut up the last few months. 4 dollar a gallon gas is making people think about a new truck.....and the companies will HAVE to make a change soon
I was following a newer Ranger this afternoon coming home from work and thinking that FMC may want to re-think closing any Ranger assembly plants.
Tim
__________________ Retired Coasty Country Boy from Stockton Springs, Maine '04 Expedition ( Family Car) '99 Taurus. Former family car '88 F-150 4x4 XLT Lariat 5.8L 5Spd '90 Honda Civic (daughter's car) 37 mpg
I think these pics explain why a member from here said he saw a f150 that had the new front end with the brake lights of the current f150 on a trailer..,,,for those that remember that post.
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05 oem foglight kit
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04 heated TT Signal Mirrors
2005 grill bumper mod
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5.4
Pwr/rear slider, audiophile ,console shift,added factory tow hooks
That's based on 15000 miles a year. I can tell you that based on commuting 30,000 miles per year, that a hybrid pays off in 2.5 years. And that calculation was based on $3.70 a gallon gas, not $4.
As for the 4.4 L diesel just having 20% better fuel economy, that would be 18 mpg city and 23-24 mpg highway, which I suppose is ok.
The F150 used to come with a 302 that was something like 190 hp on a good day.
Why not make the 4.4 a V6 (like a 3.6 liter), so instead of 350 hp and 400 ft-lbs of torque, it would make something like 210, and 300 ft-lbs, and maybe get 28 mpg?
I think GM, Fomoco, and Chrysler LLC are stuck in the dark ages, where for some strange reason it is sheer heresy to have a 1/2 ton truck with less than 300 hp. This is not necessary and overkill in today's market environment.
Because it doesn't work that way. You put in a small displacement engine, you loose low end torque and power, people complain they have to wind the engine out to far, and its to car like, then they complain the truck still gets terrible mileage because you have to wind the engine out so far to get it into the power band.
The only way for a truck the size of an F-150 to get 28MPG diesel or gas is if they made the frame of out of Play-Skool plastic, and the body panels out of recycled cardboard, and made the shape of the truck so aerodynamic and ridiculous, it would have no practicality as a truck.
You can have lots of power, and great mileage, but a useless truck.
No power, great mileage, and still useless
Lots of power, good acceleration, poor mileage, great truck
No power, horrible acceleration, same poor mileage, great truck
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- Ian
1987 Ford Ranger XLT 4x4 2.9
Needs a lot of work, including some rot on the body, but shes getting there.
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