Any smokin deals on the 08s
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Any smokin deals on the 08s
Hey guys I was just curious if anybody has bought a new 08 as off the last month. Fords got there employer pricing incentive now as well as rebates off various kinds. I know these trucks arnt moving very well with these high fuel prices so Id imagine the new trucks have come down some in price. Off course trade in have too. Just curious to what kind off deals you guys are making. Thanks for the input.
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I too am hoping for some replies just to see if anyone has negotiated anything better than the "family pricing + rebates" since I'll be shopping soon out of necessity. I am in the process of convincing an insurance company to total my 6.0 Excursion after an accident, loved it but am wondering if I should repurchase diesel right now like everyone else out there.
Family pricing + 3k rebates seems like good deal, but not compared to the larger than ever initial depreciation of owning one of these diesel beasts with little to no resale value now. Like mentioned above, trade in values are in the crapper, thank goodness it looks like they'll total mine so I'll come out ahead a little bit. ACV with the insurance company will be better than trade estimates...
I asked the new car manager at my nearby dealer if they'd take less than Family Plan - $3k rebates (taxable by the way), and he got defensive, "how can we take less than that, etc... I was looking at F250 4x4 KR 6.4, nice, nice truck but gonna wait until the deals get better or look for a used one, don't have to be in a hurry here. I'm wondering with holdback money if they'll sell for less, or if nothing is selling soon FMC will have to increase the rebates significantly. We'll see.
Geoff.
Family pricing + 3k rebates seems like good deal, but not compared to the larger than ever initial depreciation of owning one of these diesel beasts with little to no resale value now. Like mentioned above, trade in values are in the crapper, thank goodness it looks like they'll total mine so I'll come out ahead a little bit. ACV with the insurance company will be better than trade estimates...
I asked the new car manager at my nearby dealer if they'd take less than Family Plan - $3k rebates (taxable by the way), and he got defensive, "how can we take less than that, etc... I was looking at F250 4x4 KR 6.4, nice, nice truck but gonna wait until the deals get better or look for a used one, don't have to be in a hurry here. I'm wondering with holdback money if they'll sell for less, or if nothing is selling soon FMC will have to increase the rebates significantly. We'll see.
Geoff.
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I too am hoping for some replies just to see if anyone has negotiated anything better than the "family pricing + rebates" since I'll be shopping soon out of necessity. I am in the process of convincing an insurance company to total my 6.0 Excursion after an accident, loved it but am wondering if I should repurchase diesel right now like everyone else out there.
Family pricing + 3k rebates seems like good deal, but not compared to the larger than ever initial depreciation of owning one of these diesel beasts with little to no resale value now. Like mentioned above, trade in values are in the crapper, thank goodness it looks like they'll total mine so I'll come out ahead a little bit. ACV with the insurance company will be better than trade estimates...
I asked the new car manager at my nearby dealer if they'd take less than Family Plan - $3k rebates (taxable by the way), and he got defensive, "how can we take less than that, etc... I was looking at F250 4x4 KR 6.4, nice, nice truck but gonna wait until the deals get better or look for a used one, don't have to be in a hurry here. I'm wondering with holdback money if they'll sell for less, or if nothing is selling soon FMC will have to increase the rebates significantly. We'll see.
Geoff.
Family pricing + 3k rebates seems like good deal, but not compared to the larger than ever initial depreciation of owning one of these diesel beasts with little to no resale value now. Like mentioned above, trade in values are in the crapper, thank goodness it looks like they'll total mine so I'll come out ahead a little bit. ACV with the insurance company will be better than trade estimates...
I asked the new car manager at my nearby dealer if they'd take less than Family Plan - $3k rebates (taxable by the way), and he got defensive, "how can we take less than that, etc... I was looking at F250 4x4 KR 6.4, nice, nice truck but gonna wait until the deals get better or look for a used one, don't have to be in a hurry here. I'm wondering with holdback money if they'll sell for less, or if nothing is selling soon FMC will have to increase the rebates significantly. We'll see.
Geoff.
I would have gotton a small truck and make it do what I want to do a couple times a month.
I have to go down south to haul furniture I restore with a vnose trailer 12'. It costs me $300 now for a trip. I do 2 a month. I don't make enough to cover this really and at $7 per gal. it will put me out of business. Unless I get a 4 banger and make it tow at highway speeds. I don't know if it can. We have lot's of hills here in Ma. NH area. The trailer is 3500Lbs. with load.
This 08 is the nicest truck I've ever had or been in. I hate this situation.
I'm 60 now and didn't need this ****.
I'll take a beating if I sell mine. A new plow on it as well.
*******s...
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I was talking with a gentleman the other day that has a new F350 KR and he turned out to be the owner of one of the dealerships in our area. He says the profit margin on SDs is 30+%. He bought his KR which listed at $57k for $25k. Of course, he paid less than A-plan, but just the same. Ford and it's dealerships are still making money at A-plan, even with rebates. If the dealership is sitting on a pile of trucks, a little patience on your part may pay dividends. You can remind them of their flooring costs and inventory taxes on these over-priced beasts. If you sound convincing, you may get what you want. My dad once haggled for 2 hours over $100 and eventually won.
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So if cost is 25k a 30% markup would make these KRs about $32,500 Not 57k. Probably counted all kinds of rebates and a trade in or something like that.
Thought I read somewhere that Ford had a 12-18% margin on the Superduty depending on options?
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Wow. Do you think he was pulling your leg Rob? I mean I can't imagine a 30% markup. Even if $25,000 was dead cost a 50% markup would make these trucks $37500. So selling them at 55k is what? 120% markup?
So if cost is 25k a 30% markup would make these KRs about $32,500 Not 57k. Probably counted all kinds of rebates and a trade in or something like that.
Thought I read somewhere that Ford had a 12-18% margin on the Superduty depending on options?
So if cost is 25k a 30% markup would make these KRs about $32,500 Not 57k. Probably counted all kinds of rebates and a trade in or something like that.
Thought I read somewhere that Ford had a 12-18% margin on the Superduty depending on options?
You figure 12-18% for Ford and 12-18% for the dealer, that's 24-36% total. It's well known Ford makes the most money on their trucks.
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I was talking with a gentleman the other day that has a new F350 KR and he turned out to be the owner of one of the dealerships in our area. He says the profit margin on SDs is 30+%. He bought his KR which listed at $57k for $25k. Of course, he paid less than A-plan, but just the same. Ford and it's dealerships are still making money at A-plan, even with rebates.
A dealer pays invoice, and receives another 3% dealer holdback when the unit is sold, that's it. If they sell a 50K truck at dealer invoice, then make $1,500.00 in holdback profit. Many dealers will sell at $500.00 under invoice on an order.
I ordered my truck last summer.
It listed for 56K, and I bought it for 42 and change.
Haggling is a total waste of time. The salesmen are just playing with your head because they know you weren't prepared with the right numbers.
Know invoice, rebates and or A/X plan numbers.
There's also upfitter money available if you supply some kind of receipt..
Dealers actually make more money from Ford at "A" plan than they do at invoice.
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If I were in the market for a new truck and didn't already have one, I would seriously consider leasing it depending on what the intended use is. Since resale values have tanked, you can almost guarantee a $7-10k depreciation as soon as it's driven off the lot. Even with free money offers and loads of rebates, your insurance company isn't going to pay you off if it gets totaled. Gap insurance is as big a waste of money as PMI is on a mortgage. It's true, residual values on lease deals will drop so you end up paying more during the term, but at least you can get out from under it without taking as big a hit.
I bought an '04 F150 4x4 Lariat used 2 years ago. My needs have since changed and I really want/need a F250 with diesel. But, my truck is worth just 2/3 what I paid for it. Now I'm having to rethink my future plans and just deal with what I've got.
I bought an '04 F150 4x4 Lariat used 2 years ago. My needs have since changed and I really want/need a F250 with diesel. But, my truck is worth just 2/3 what I paid for it. Now I'm having to rethink my future plans and just deal with what I've got.