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Old 06-29-2008, 04:20 PM
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I am really thinking about getting an f250.
I have been thinking about an 05 or 06 but have been doing some research and have found the 2008s are not selling at all?
So my question is would it be a better idea to buy a used 2005 with low miles or the same truck (package, options) in a 2008 new or slightly used.
I am not going to tow, because my family already owns an 08 king ranch 250, so I am just looking for more of my own personal truck to go dirtbiking, and as a daily driver. I also plan on lifting either truck I decide on.
Is $15,000 a reasonable amount for an xl or xlt cc sb in either of these trucks. Can I get a 2008 for the same price?
I am just trying to explore my options.
   
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Old 06-29-2008, 06:05 PM
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You can get a lot better deal on the 05 to 07 than a new 08. The 6.0 gets better fuel milage than the 6.4.

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For a daily driver, non towing, I'd really look at a gas engine. I have a 6.0 and I don't work it enough to justify the extra maintenance and fuel costs. If you want power, look for a V10 and save $1/gallon in fuel over diesel. Don't get me wrong, I love my 6.0, but for the amount of in-town driving I do I should have gotten a V10.
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$15000 MIGHT get you a 2wd gasser or possibly a diesel with a billion miles on it. I wouldnt think You could get a 08 2wd reg cab 5.4 work truck for $15000. Thats more of an 99-04 price tag. I bought my 06 Feb 1st its a crew cab 4x4 6.0 it had 30K miles XLT loaded for $28000

EDIT: Just went to autotrader.com and did a search. You could find an 05-06 in your price range as long as your not wanting a diesel. In my search the only diesels in your price range had a ton of miles on them.
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If you want power, look for a V10 and save $1/gallon in fuel over diesel.
That dollar saved is neglible when you factor in the mileage. A friend of mine has a SRW 3.73 F250 v10 and he gets high 8 mpg in town traffic, a little more town traveling then I do, but I get 12.9 in town traffic DRW 4.30 gears and everything in my siggy and that's without driving for a mind toward economy. Now those numbers aren't going to translate to everyone, but on the flip side, good in town mileage isn't going to translate to everyone either. In all honesty, hauling dirt bikes could be done with an 150 or equilivant. I wouldn't even suggest a superduty or equilivant truck for what he is doing, although lifting the truck would be harder on a halfton, but I'm not fond of lifted trucks for a variaty of reasons other then that.
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Yea, I am still trying to decide if I can justify buying the f250 over a 1500. I would rather get an f150 than the v10. We use to have the triton in our motorhome and I have never been that fond of it. It seems bulletproof, but, I don't like the characteristics of the powerband, etc. I am starting to open up towards a 1500, so we will see. I may try to make a couple dealers low offers on a 2005 f250, but if I cant find the right price, I'll look towards an f150 probably, because I am a pretty loyal ford guy. The new tundras look good, but I'd rather drive an American truck, that feels like a truck. I just love the feel of the diesels mass and rigity, maybe a lift would help the 1500 in that department.
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I'll look towards an f150 probably..... maybe a lift would help the 1500 in that department.

If your going to lift a 150, you might want to re-gear to 4.10s and you might want to consider some custom tuning as well. That would probably help you regain what you lose with a lift kit. Gearing might be enough, but also you can have a little(emphasis on little) extra fun with the custom tuning as well.
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If you are looking at a diesel powered SD I would lean toward an '06 or '07 6.0. Prices for used F-250/350's are low right now and if you really need (or want) one of these HD trucks this is the time to buy one.

If you plan to use your truck as a daily driver, realize that moving a 6500# chunk of iron uses lots of fuel. Gas or diesel, the costs per mile end up being similar. An SD is not an economy vehicle.

An SD is at it's best when it is used as a truck. These beasts will carry or haul serious loads without any problem. If I had a choice on a used truck it would be a tough call to choose between a V-10 or 6.0 PSD. I like the diesel, but the gasser is also excellent. The V-10 has a reputation for reliability that early build 6.0's can't match. Late build 6.0's seem to work well.

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If your going to lift a 150, you might want to re-gear to 4.10s and you might want to consider some custom tuning as well. That would probably help you regain what you lose with a lift kit. Gearing might be enough, but also you can have a little(emphasis on little) extra fun with the custom tuning as well.
Yea, I was afraid of that.
I was planing on probably doing tuning though. The tundras look good, but I cant get over the wierd interior, japanese factor, and my ford loyalty. Is the f150 the way to go? I mean it has low numbers, but it still tows the most. Sometimes I think there is something better.
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If you are looking at a diesel powered SD I would lean toward an '06 or '07 6.0. Prices for used F-250/350's are low right now and if you really need (or want) one of these HD trucks this is the time to buy one.

If you plan to use your truck as a daily driver, realize that moving a 6500# chunk of iron uses lots of fuel. Gas or diesel, the costs per mile end up being similar. An SD is not an economy vehicle.

An SD is at it's best when it is used as a truck. These beasts will carry or haul serious loads without any problem. If I had a choice on a used truck it would be a tough call to choose between a V-10 or 6.0 PSD. I like the diesel, but the gasser is also excellent. The V-10 has a reputation for reliability that early build 6.0's can't match. Late build 6.0's seem to work well.

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Yes the prices are low, but I am starting to think they are not low enough. I am kinda in the 15000 range, dont need many options, just a cc and a diesel.
I went shopping a couple days ago and saw a 2005 f250 4x4 xlt with 30000 for 24,000. I would be happy with that truck, but not that price. I need to take off at least 7000 to even consider it. Although, it had more options than I needed, because I dont need leather. I plan on doing a king ranch swap for 1000 anyways.
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Is the f150 the way to go? I mean it has low numbers, but it still tows the most. Sometimes I think there is something better.
Well at most what would be the weight that you would haul(doesn't matter if that weight is once every 5 yrs, just what is the most that you could remotely conceive of for this truck in the near and relatively far off future at this point in time)? Depending on what that number is, a 150 with 5.4 engine(the 4.6s are gutless and I don't like them one bit for anything but in-bed hauling at most) could be exactly what would do right by you in the near and somewhat far future and be nimble enough for some offroading if that floats your boat as well. Now it might not be exactly totally what you want, but until things work out(and they will just takes time) you'll have to make compromises that you may not particularly want to do, but sometimes have to do.
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Well to the above, I will never carry larger than 16-18 foot motorcycle trailer or 25 foot boat. The f-150 5.4 can handle it. As of right now I don't NEED to tow anything, because we already have an 2008 f250 king ranch with the 6.4. I will only have access to this truck on a limited basis though. And like you said I can easily accept an f150 for now-Im not saying an f250 is a better choice, I am just wondering if ford is not the route to go for once? I don't see any better trucks than the ford until 2007. I kind of like the newer gmc 1500 and tundra, which are probably out of my price range anyways. Also it is tough to bring myself to buy from either of those brands, because lets face it, gm trucks are built cheaply and a tundra is a wierd japanese over-priced "revolution." even though its powerful, roomy, and nice lookin, on the outside. I just sometimes think the f-150 looks funny, but a lift and grill may quickly change my opinion.
I have just seen both those trucks lifted and they look awesome, for some reason I never see lifted f150s.
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Well the 09 150s look really cool(atleast to me anyway) but not budget friendly I'm sure and they have alot of options that are kinda of a nice compromise for those that like options for towing, but don't really cross the threshold to a heavier truck. I think a two yr old 150 might be alright, the tranny is going to be the week point if it's high mileage for an auto(with I think they all are now, or atleast going to be). I am not a gm fan at all, so you won't find me to sympathic to that choice, in all honesty my disgust for them goes so far as I would go for a tundra or a ridgeline before a gm product, but once again that's just me. I know a guy that has helped me install the audio electronics in my truck and he has a lifted 1500 dodge and it's a nice truck, roomy and he hauls some motorcycles with it and has no complaints. In all honesty I would still with the 150 or if need be go to the 1500 ram, but I'm definately not a gm/chevy fan.
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