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Old 06-23-2008, 11:30 AM
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I've been doing some research on this feature found at halfwaterhalfgas.com and I was wondering if anyone has tried this on an expedition yet. There is a local person who has done this on their car and seen about a 30% MPG increase.

What do you think?
 
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:58 PM
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Well there Roboteacher

if you belive that. i do have a bridge for sale .. ill give it to you real cheap
 
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:20 PM
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Yeah, actuality I do 95% water 5% gas. Works great. I can't believe people use straight gas.
 
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Old 06-23-2008, 07:46 PM
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Yeah, actuality I do 95% water 5% gas. Works great. I can't believe people use straight gas.
You still use gas at all?
 
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Water and gas do NOT mix. They have different specific gravity values. I have a Yamaha 225HP V Max HPDI that protects itself from water in the gas. Water is heavier than gas so if you get water in the gas the gas floats on the water. In the final filter for my outboard there is a float that floats only on water, but not on gas. If you get some water in your gas the float will rise and set off an alarm and shut down the engine until you flush out the water. The last time I checked firemen use water to put out fires not start them.
 
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Oxyhydrogen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oxyhydrogen is often mentioned in conjunction with devices that claim to increase automotive engine efficiency.

Many of these claims, prima facie, violate the Law of conservation of energy. See Conservation of energy and Electrolysis of water:Efficiency. To date, none of these claims have been proven, and most have been fraudulent.
 
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:29 AM
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Personally I think it is snake oil. I don't think there is enough gas output of these devices to make any difference on mileage. Heck just leave the petrol pig in the driveway and watch how long a tank of gas lasts ya LOL.
 
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I think you go first and let us know how its works and much the cost is to tow home.
 
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OK I think we all jumped on roboteacher about halfwaterhalfgas.com, after looking at web site they are not mixing water and gas as we all know that won't work, so before you comment maybe you should look for yourself. As far as the claims that are made I don't know.
 
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i used to be in the jewelry business, and i have used a watertorch, this thing is at best a fire danger,, hydrogen does not burn. it explodes, stay away
 
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Originally Posted by John_2004_EB
hydrogen does not burn. it explodes
Umm, the last I knew the basic concept behind an internal combustion engine was a small controlled explosion within a cylinder.
 
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Originally Posted by cbradford
before you comment maybe you should look for yourself.
A wise philosophy considering that this concept is already in play!
Scorpion sportscar would burn gasoline and hydrogen | Green Tech - CNET News.com
 
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Very true. However, gas is atomized in the cylinder and becomes explosive at that point, in case of this gadget; you have hydrogen mixed with oxygen, traveling to the cylinder, with a lot of spark sources available.
 
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Originally Posted by John_2004_EB
Very true. However, gas is atomized in the cylinder and becomes explosive at that point, in case of this gadget; you have hydrogen mixed with oxygen, traveling to the cylinder, with a lot of spark sources available.
And it's different from a carburetor system how?

I haven't read exactly how the system works, but I assume it injects the hydrogen at some point downstream of the throttle body, which would be exactly the same effect as a throttle-body injected, or carburetored system works. They all have an explosive mixture of fuel/air downstream of the throttle plates that is distributed to the cylinders via the intake manifold. I can't recall too many cases of people getting blown up using those systems...
 
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It don't work. Why waste time talking about it? Try it. Put your garden hose in and filler up. Report back.
 


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