Meeting with a FORD Rep. tomorrow, have a question.
#16
06-27-2008, 10:34 AM
Tylus I agree with you and think he has done just that.
Last summer I was rear ended in a 4 car accident on the freeway, only damage to me was a crooked bumper. Dealer fixed the bumper for 48.00 bucks and checked the frame/alignment on a their machine's and said everything was good. But after that I "noticed" that my hitch looked bent down. Every time I looked at another f-150's hitch, I swear my was bent, dad told me I was crazy!! Got out with a tape and measured from 5 different points to my dads truck and everyone came out the same!!
So after I got it out of my head that it "looks" bent it really is not.
Steehorse, Not saying that all those thing cant happen, but crap dude I really think that you want all those things to be wrong with it. Not trying to be a smart *** in any way...
O, and trying to add washers to the hubs well....if you really want your tire going down the road ****-eyed, but it would be setting you up for an major accident and when hub/spindles fail, don't do it!
I think you said it yourself,
""had tint put in the truck and has bubbles on all windows and it's gonna be 3 times now they had to replace the tint on it, I got a headache from all this and have been downing brews like water and short fused with everyone I see, I need to relax or this truck is gonna kill me.""
You had some other problems with the tint on the truck and you are just finding other things about it to be pissed off at!
Clam down relax, it will all work out
If it just looked like that from the pass. mirror, it is not the axle it is how it appears in the mirror. It is from the angle you are looking at it from, as you are closer to the drivers side then the pass. side mirror, what you can see out of it is different. When I ride shot gun and look out the pass. side mirror the whole view changes on what I can see and on how it looks.
Last summer I was rear ended in a 4 car accident on the freeway, only damage to me was a crooked bumper. Dealer fixed the bumper for 48.00 bucks and checked the frame/alignment on a their machine's and said everything was good. But after that I "noticed" that my hitch looked bent down. Every time I looked at another f-150's hitch, I swear my was bent, dad told me I was crazy!! Got out with a tape and measured from 5 different points to my dads truck and everyone came out the same!!
So after I got it out of my head that it "looks" bent it really is not.
Steehorse, Not saying that all those thing cant happen, but crap dude I really think that you want all those things to be wrong with it. Not trying to be a smart *** in any way...
O, and trying to add washers to the hubs well....if you really want your tire going down the road ****-eyed, but it would be setting you up for an major accident and when hub/spindles fail, don't do it!
I think you said it yourself,
""had tint put in the truck and has bubbles on all windows and it's gonna be 3 times now they had to replace the tint on it, I got a headache from all this and have been downing brews like water and short fused with everyone I see, I need to relax or this truck is gonna kill me.""
You had some other problems with the tint on the truck and you are just finding other things about it to be pissed off at!
Clam down relax, it will all work out
If it just looked like that from the pass. mirror, it is not the axle it is how it appears in the mirror. It is from the angle you are looking at it from, as you are closer to the drivers side then the pass. side mirror, what you can see out of it is different. When I ride shot gun and look out the pass. side mirror the whole view changes on what I can see and on how it looks.
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06-28-2008, 06:06 AM
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#19
06-29-2008, 11:38 AM
You know if you go to a reputable alignment shop, they have the wheel alignment machine that will actually measure the angles of the wheels.
And they will give you a printout. For 69 bucks its probably the best move you could make, and then if the angles really are off, you will have a printout to show the Ford rep.
And, if the angles are not off, then you know you've been smokin some really good shiznit for the last 6 months.
Peace.
And they will give you a printout. For 69 bucks its probably the best move you could make, and then if the angles really are off, you will have a printout to show the Ford rep.
And, if the angles are not off, then you know you've been smokin some really good shiznit for the last 6 months.
Peace.
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06-29-2008, 05:21 PM
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Ya had print out it all lines up and the alignment machine at a reputible company but the situation is the tires in the rear how they look in the wheel wells, alignment is fine, need to get pic;s up to show but no damn camera yet sent out for repair work, still waiting. But heres what it kind of looks like but not so much lean / / something like that there when looking at it behind.
#21
06-29-2008, 10:22 PM
Steel, there might be something really simple wrong with your truck that Ford etc. is too dumb to figure out. You need to calm down and do some careful inspecting of everything in the rear end of that truck. Check all the bed mounts, leaf springs and mounts, shocks and mounts, axle mounts. For example, lets say that a leaf spring mount is defective by 1 inch or so, that will lean one side and screw everything up. You have to check and measure all the mount components and shock extension and everything. Measure your wheels and tires. A truck is really just a bunch of basic stuff mounted on the frame, it shouldn't be too hard to find the piece that's out of spec. provided you compare and measure methodically and with precision. Also, I wouldn't space any wheels on the lugs, bad idea, something else is out of spec. Maybe a shock is bad or leaf spring too thin or out of spec. If you really want to find the trouble, get a good accurate machinists ruler and start measuring all the components on each side, somethings got to prove wrong. From the way your describing it, either the pass side suspension is pushed away abit from the frame or the drivers side is compressed a bit, the box is probably not involved. I think the bent frame is not so either, too much other stuff would be wrong. Look at each piece, then compare to the other side, etc. etc. Too bad you have all this trouble. Also, have a beer! Dave
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pictures off the off-set
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08-25-2008, 04:04 AM
I'm really not trying to be mean Steelehorse, but those pics don't support your arguement. the pic below shows the channeled insert of your bumper. it aligns damn near perfectly with the tailgate (see red outline).
also, as you can see from the photo's below, the have the same aspect angle (mirror and door handle are same). now look at the tires. they again, look identical.
it's in your head
also, as you can see from the photo's below, the have the same aspect angle (mirror and door handle are same). now look at the tires. they again, look identical.
it's in your head
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08-25-2008, 01:47 PM
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08-25-2008, 02:51 PM
Yeah, everything lines up perfectly. I see nothing wrong with your truck at all, besides that your back tires look a little low. Like it was said, there is no way your back tires can be like this /----/. It is impossible with the axle. The only way that could happen is if your rims got bent, and you'd feel a huge vibration if they were bent that much.
From your pictures your bumper lines up just fine as well. The bed compared to the Mirrors is line up just about perfectly too.
As for tire wear, slightly angling out of the wheels, so small that you can barely see can have huge affects on tire wear. But according to you, your back tires angle out a 1/2" and yet the wear remains even? Not possible.
It is all in your head.
EDIT: Looked at the other pictures in your gallery, your front tires are also squishing out at the bottom. They look low as well.
From your pictures your bumper lines up just fine as well. The bed compared to the Mirrors is line up just about perfectly too.
As for tire wear, slightly angling out of the wheels, so small that you can barely see can have huge affects on tire wear. But according to you, your back tires angle out a 1/2" and yet the wear remains even? Not possible.
It is all in your head.
EDIT: Looked at the other pictures in your gallery, your front tires are also squishing out at the bottom. They look low as well.
#29
08-25-2008, 05:49 PM
I Had A Question Yesterday Before The Pics. Did You Do A Walk Around Before Buying It? If It Is So Bad Them Surly It Would Be Evident Before Driving Off With It. I Am Not Trying To Be A Jerk, Just Curious.
After Pics, Seems Ok To Me. Made Me Curious Enough To Take Another Look At Mine And A Couple Of Guys At Work.
After Pics, Seems Ok To Me. Made Me Curious Enough To Take Another Look At Mine And A Couple Of Guys At Work.
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08-26-2008, 05:24 AM
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Maybe it's not all in his head. Look carefully at the location of the tire to the fender. You'll notice, that the tire is out further on the passenger side.
But, the dealers clearly wont do anything more for you. You don't have tire wear issues or any others, so it's a good idea to just accept. This truck wasn't built as well, in some ways, as others.
But, the dealers clearly wont do anything more for you. You don't have tire wear issues or any others, so it's a good idea to just accept. This truck wasn't built as well, in some ways, as others.