I'm not trying to be a know it all by any means. And if I come off that way it's not my intention. Sorry if it was. I'll be the first to admit no one knows it all (except God) especially me. And I'm not looking to argue. That is not my intent by any means. You've just hit on a touchy subject (on many forums) that has been proven to be false. Sure there are always exceptions to the rule. There always will be. That's why I question things. Not to be a jerk. But to learn new things. And even though you were there. Your still not positive exactly what you had. Not the fact is was a 427. That I'm sure you knew. But the fact if the car really started life that way from the factory. That's all I'm trying to say. And these are the questions people will ask. And the answers they will want to know. I have a lot of respect for everyone here. And a lot of friends too. Yourself included. My apologies if they were taken the wrong way.
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I'm not trying to be a know it all by any means. And if I come off that way it's not my intention. Sorry if it was. I'll be the first to admit no one knows it all (except God) especially me. And I'm not looking to argue. That is not my intent by any means. You've just hit on a touchy subject (on many forums) that has been proven to be false. Sure there are always exceptions to the rule. There always will be. That's why I question things. Not to be a jerk. But to learn new things. And even though you were there. Your still not positive exactly what you had. Not the fact is was a 427. That I'm sure you knew. But the fact if the car really started life that way from the factory. That's all I'm trying to say. And these are the questions people will ask. And the answers they will want to know. I have a lot of respect for everyone here. And a lot of friends too. Yourself included. My apologies if they were taken the wrong way.
Apology accepted. True, I did not buy the car off the show room floor. It was used. The dealership or whoever could have put the 427 in the car before I bought it. After the wreck, I salvaged the 427 and put it in different cars. One of those was a 1966 Ford Fairlane GT. I did a lot of research on that engine and that is how I know it had a c8ax6250c hydraulic cam. The fairlane had 390 emblems on it, and it was fun to race people and tell them " boy Ford sure makes stout 390's". The fairlane had 3.25 gears, so most of the races were from a roll. If you know the area, we raced on La Cadena, starting at Barton road and going north to the bridge. About a 1/2 mile run. In three years, I only lost to one car. People would come from Redlands, Riverside, Fontana, San Bernardino etc. to try and beat me. A guy from Riverside with a 69ish "not sure" chevelle with what he said was an L88 engine. We raced three times, and he beat me twice.
So the king was dead, long live the king...
The 428SCJ Mach 1 had the drag pack in it, so it had 3.90 posi gears, 4spd trans, Black car with white upholstery. I should have never sold it. Anyway, I still have the engine and trans.
I still have a smile on my face thinking about way back then.
With the new parts, I plan on smiling more with the 1960 Falcon.
Have a great day.
Maxtor
Maxtor, I don't think anyone doubts that you had a 427 car. What is being doubted is whether or not it came from the factory that way. There are a couple of possibilities. The first is that you had one of the '68 cougars that did come from the factory with a 427. I used to drive a 351C powered Mach 1 that was titled as a station wagon. If a dealer goofed up the paperwork for your car and got the year wrong, it would by no means be the first time. The second and probably the most likely is that your cougar, used, had been altered by a dealer or previous owner. In the late 60s and early 70s, dealers were a whole lot more open to whatever than they are now. If you had cash and you wanted a 427HR in an F250 or a galaxie station wagon, they'd do it. It would cost you plenty, but they weren't liability paranoid then. I suppose if you had enough money you could order any combination you could dream up. A dealer done swap would usually look just like stock. They would have had easy availability to all the correct parts to do the job. Many hot rod types knew what fit where as well. Impossible to know what happened to it before you got it. Third is an assembly line screwup. Not as likely, but certainly not impossible. I have worked on lines before, and if the option was to stop the line, or keep going with something I wasn't really supposed to use, they kept the line going. I wouldn't be at all surprized if there were 352 powerded '390' cars and trucks out there, or a 390 where a 428 was supposed to be. Stuff happens. It isn't worth getting upset about. We need to help Mr F250 pick his engine parts. DinosaurFan, on work's old 'puter
Yep, I agree with you 100%. Any of the above could have happened.
My vote is for him to get a 428 or 460 engine. If his truck came with an FE, he should go with the 428, if it came with other than a FE, go with the 460.
yes 250
back to what you want..
if you get an 427 and pay the $ for it and then blow it....
bet you probbaly be out the set up and have to settle for a 390-428 or another fe..
i have owned them all and have to agree with the 429-460 set up...they are more gettable and also have and still have options being built for them now to really make them go..when in doubt go back to the prostock day when Bob Glidden ran one and look at the wins he made with that engine..looks like that is what you are tryin to do.
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'97 Cougar XR7 30th Anniv Edition 4.6L
'74 F250 Highboy FE390 deceased! I've been wrong before, I'll be wrong again. Just wait and see.
the 460 doesnt run out of power at 3500rpm.that motor can make a honest 500+hp with very little work and a reasonably mount of money.if you dont have a motor then the 460 is the perfect answer.first get a good block,second get a 533cid stroker kit,third get alu heads and alu centerhead,get some large headers, a large carb(850cfm will do)and have it professionally built and balanced,you should be able to shred your tires in every gear and scare the crap out of yourself.you should see 550hp and 530lbft of torque at 5800rpm.this stuff is easy to find and most of the ford mud racers run this combo.good luck
OP, who is now apparently just working on his six, wanted a stock motor, & didn't want to build or rebuild a motor. Stock 460s are pretty much done by 3500. A firebreather? Easy? All it takes is a couple rolls of $100s....
Edelbrock heads bare $1,000
cam $120
valves $350
stroker kit $2,000
head porting $1,200
If you need a new 427 block, aluminum $4,900
This does not include any machine work on the block, head studs, timing chain set, valve seals,locks, retainers, lifters, springs, pushrods, gaskets, oil pump, freeze plugs, electronics, distributer and other misc.
So you can see, the cost of building a nice FE can be expensive.
Then you have the cost of building your vehicle up to hold the extra hp, along with the braking system. Going fast has never been cheap.
For his needs, I think a 460 would get him to his goal for less money. For others, who already have FE performance parts, then the FE would work fine. In our case, we have a good supply of FE hp parts, so we choose to build and race FE's.
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