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NEWS...Caterpillar & Navistar match up...

Just heard on CNBC today, as Cummins Engine stock gained almost ten bucks a share and then dropped back.

Cat & Navistar are in a deal together. Probably more explanation later on, but the way I read it, CAT's engine is not 2010 compliant, and they will not compete in light/medium duty truck engine.

Navistar didn't release much, but it sounds like they too will pull out of the 2010 diesel engine market.

I'll follow up with more news or someone else can post, as it was very confusing what was being said.

The results were that CUMMINS was a big winner on the stock market today.

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Think it all is for class 8 trucks last I had heard was only diesel manuf was Mack that could pass EPA specs for hwy trucks now this info is a few years old.When I was at last Mack school was for M eng. which was a Volvo /Mack deal
 
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rob_nc:

I read your link. Cat and Navistar sure make it clear as mud! I'm starting to get the feeling that Cummins with their urea engine is the only solution to the 2010 compliant engine.

Add the cost of fuel into the equation and I sure hope my 6.4 holds up because it appears the choices for a 2010 diesel are becoming slim to none.
 
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Originally Posted by rmosso1
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I read your link. Cat and Navistar sure make it clear as mud! I'm starting to get the feeling that Cummins with their urea engine is the only solution to the 2010 compliant engine.

Add the cost of fuel into the equation and I sure hope my 6.4 holds up because it appears the choices for a 2010 diesel are becoming slim to none.
I hate the EPA!!
 
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Sure hope Ford gets crackin on that 6.7 or else there may be a bunch more Dodges on the road.
 
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It dosen't look too bright for diesel pickups down the road. Makes me glad I didn't wait caus I think the 2010s are going to be a lot worse then my 6.4. I have accepted the 14mpg as what it is going to be. The only other possibility is the EPA caving in but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
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No way the EPA will cave, have their heads way to far up a body cavity I can't mention
 
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Interesting find. That's the first I've heard anything about this. I wondered what was up with Cummins stock yesterday.
 
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news: Caterpillar to exit US highway engine business, form alliance with Navistar

There are some other interesting stories if you go to the root page, TX wanting out on 50% of ethanol required production, Detroit Diesel changing regen program to gain 2.5% fuel economy, etc.
 
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Did dodge sign another contract with cummins? Last I read on here dodge was looking at benz (I think) for there diesels. No one has posted any info lately on that so I wasn't sure.
 
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You want to see a picture of a Chevy Truck?

Go to

www.navistarengines.com

Navistar is pissed at Ford and sueing them for stealing their engine.
 
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WOW , That's something no mention of FORD
 
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Originally Posted by az4x4bronc
You want to see a picture of a Chevy Truck?

Go to

www.navistarengines.com

Navistar is pissed at Ford and sueing them for stealing their engine.

That looks awfully similar to a Toyota.
 
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Originally Posted by rmosso1
rob_nc:

I read your link. Cat and Navistar sure make it clear as mud! I'm starting to get the feeling that Cummins with their urea engine is the only solution to the 2010 compliant engine.

Add the cost of fuel into the equation and I sure hope my 6.4 holds up because it appears the choices for a 2010 diesel are becoming slim to none.
Word has it Navistar is dropping the still HEUI MaxxForce 5 aka 4.5 Powerstoke for 2010 but the 6.4 is good to go with some changes in programming. GM steps in to replace Ford as a truck and engine customer and here is Navistar's spin on their 2010 engines:
Why Choose MaxxForce?? ? Meeting 2010 Emissions - MaxxForce
 


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