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Has anybody heard any rumors on this engine? A buddy of mine said he heard Ford is already road tested this engine at 22/city and 26/highway. He said hp was somewhere around 350, with torque around 390. If this is remotely true, Ford is going to be just fine!
those numbers sound like the numbers from the Lincoln sedan, not the numbers you'd get in a 6000 lb truck.
Either way, 350hp/390lb-ft is more than the F150 has currently and more hp than the '09 F150 is supposed to have and a lot more than the 4.2 Essex offers in mpgs & power. Of course in a 6000# truck, you won't get those type of mpgs.
Now I have heard many rumors regarding the EcoBoost (formerly know as Twin-Force) V6, but haven't seen any factual basis backing the #'s. Will wait until Ford releases more details. This EcoBoost design has also been speculated to go on the 6.2L Boss (Hurricane) motor at some point.
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2006 Ford F-150 SuperCrew XLT Chrome Edition
5.4L Flex-Fuel, 3.73LS, 18" Stock Rims, 18" BFG Rugged Trail T/A's, Trailer Tow Pkg
Sun/Moonroof, Fog Lamps, Ford Bedliner
Lund Headlight & Taillight Covers, Lund VentVisors
Either way, 350hp/390lb-ft is more than the F150 has currently and more hp than the '09 F150 is supposed to have and a lot more than the 4.2 Essex offers in mpgs & power. Of course in a 6000# truck, you won't get those type of mpgs.
Now I have heard many rumors regarding the EcoBoost (formerly know as Twin-Force) V6, but haven't seen any factual basis backing the #'s. Will wait until Ford releases more details. This EcoBoost design has also been speculated to go on the 6.2L Boss (Hurricane) motor at some point.
my point was, it's a car motor at this time, so don't expect those same numbers in a truck - not just mpg but the hp/tq numbers too. Ford, unlike toyota and chevy, will not put a motor with a 4000rpm peak torque in a truck. They'll sooner add 3 ft to the intake runners to get the low end torque and lose hp in the process rather than do that...
remember those late 80s truck version 5.0s with the foot tall intake? the ones that made 140hp cause the mustang's blistering 215 was way too much, hehe...
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2001 F250 Reg Cab 4x4 V10 - 285s and 5star tuned
2004 mach1 mustang, holding the garage floor in place.
2003 Mercury Marauder - keeping the mustang company
2000 Excursion Limited 4x4 V10 - 285s and 5star tuned - Gone
2004 F150 XLT screw 4x4 5.4 - 2.5 leveling kit, 34.5" BFGs - Gone
my point was, it's a car motor at this time, so don't expect those same numbers in a truck - not just mpg but the hp/tq numbers too. Ford, unlike toyota and chevy, will not put a motor with a 4000rpm peak torque in a truck. They'll sooner add 3 ft to the intake runners to get the low end torque and lose hp in the process rather than do that...
remember those late 80s truck version 5.0s with the foot tall intake? the ones that made 140hp cause the mustang's blistering 215 was way too much, hehe...
Oh no doubt. Wasn't disagreeing. I know it's been released that the 3.5L will replace the 4.2L in the 2010 or 2011 F150 MY, being 2009 won't have a V6, but these won't be the #'s. Maybe something around those lb-ft #'s, but those mpg & HP #'s will surely drop.
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2006 Ford F-150 SuperCrew XLT Chrome Edition
5.4L Flex-Fuel, 3.73LS, 18" Stock Rims, 18" BFG Rugged Trail T/A's, Trailer Tow Pkg
Sun/Moonroof, Fog Lamps, Ford Bedliner
Lund Headlight & Taillight Covers, Lund VentVisors
Oh no doubt. Wasn't disagreeing. I know it's been released that the 3.5L will replace the 4.2L in the 2010 or 2011 F150 MY, being 2009 won't have a V6, but these won't be the #'s. Maybe something around those lb-ft #'s, but those mpg & HP #'s will surely drop.
at least the crappy choice of rear end gears (3.15s in a half ton? any lower and you'd think they're geared for the bonneville salt flats ) will make it easy for that thing to build boost early on :P
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2001 F250 Reg Cab 4x4 V10 - 285s and 5star tuned
2004 mach1 mustang, holding the garage floor in place.
2003 Mercury Marauder - keeping the mustang company
2000 Excursion Limited 4x4 V10 - 285s and 5star tuned - Gone
2004 F150 XLT screw 4x4 5.4 - 2.5 leveling kit, 34.5" BFGs - Gone
I would like to see the torque curve for those new engines. Turbo gassers have been around for a really long time, and really don't have a reputation as having much low end torque.
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1987 Mustang GT
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A bunch of motorcycles, other cars, and a Quad.
If it's truely a twin-turbo, it'll probably be a compound turbo system. So you can get low end torque and high-end horse power. I believe BMW currently has a compound turbo system on a the I-6 in the 3 series, producing V8 power! Also, aren't the new 6.4L diesels a compounded twin-turbo?
The BMW motor makes ~295 ft lbs of torque @ 1400 RPM, I'd put that in my truck! I think my '75 Chevy 454 3/4-ton made 330 ft lbs @ 1700 RPM.
[quote=supeRobertduty;6252023]Yea the (2.4 eco boost) svo mustang was a real tow monster.
Everyone know's that small turbo motor's are great for low rpm trucks.[/quote
That's not the purpose of these engines. These engines are for MPG's exclusively. The 4.2L it will replace was not designed to be a tow monster either.
Yea the (2.4 eco boost) svo mustang was a real tow monster.
Everyone know's that small turbo motor's are great for low rpm trucks.[/quote
That's not the purpose of these engines. These engines are for MPG's exclusively. The 4.2L it will replace was not designed to be a tow monster either.
let's hope it'll be easy enough to turn up the wick on em
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2001 F250 Reg Cab 4x4 V10 - 285s and 5star tuned
2004 mach1 mustang, holding the garage floor in place.
2003 Mercury Marauder - keeping the mustang company
2000 Excursion Limited 4x4 V10 - 285s and 5star tuned - Gone
2004 F150 XLT screw 4x4 5.4 - 2.5 leveling kit, 34.5" BFGs - Gone
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2009 3.5 V6 Turbo/Twin Force?
