Not that it's going to make a difference in sales numbers (gas is $4+) but here comes the much expected employee pricing campaign. AGAIN.
Farley said the company plans to offer an employee-pricing discount on F-series trucks this summer to clear out inventory before the new F-series arrives this fall.
My question is won't this "steal" potential 09' F-150 sales?
Not that it's going to make a difference in sales numbers (gas is $4+) but here comes the much expected employee pricing campaign. AGAIN.
Farley said the company plans to offer an employee-pricing discount on F-series trucks this summer to clear out inventory before the new F-series arrives this fall.
My question is won't this "steal" potential 09' F-150 sales?
It might hurt the new sales a bit but they need to clear out the inventory.
By next summer with $5-$6.00 a gallon gas Ford and all the other auto makers will have to offer 0% financing, employee pricing on top of huge dealer and factory incentives in order to just sell their trucks.
It might hurt the new sales a bit but they need to clear out the inventory.
By next summer with $5-$6.00 a gallon gas Ford and all the other auto makers will have to offer 0% financing, employee pricing on top of huge dealer and factory incentives in order to just sell their trucks.
We won't have to worry about buying a truck if gas keeps going and gets to the 5-6 range the country will probably shut down?
If gas keeps going up, just keeps the price of everything else on the way up so everything will be way out of control!!!
Idoubt many employees are worrying about a new truck now not knowing if they will even have a job and if gas stays where it is many of them won't have a job.
Do they actually have any employees left that haven't been "bought out" and making a decent wage?
How is a guy expected to work for $18/hour (40 hrs/week= $720/week) and pay for a $30k loan, put food on the table, pay the rent AND have a money left over for $4.00/gal gas for a pickup?
After FICA, Social Security taxes, Federal, State and Local taxes, throw in some union dues, there's maybe $500 bucks left per week, if you're lucky.
Ford just announced the fuel efficient next gen Fiesta will be built in Mexico, even though a US plant bid on it.
U.S. car manufacturers are going the way of the Dodo, and they have nobody but their fat cat managers to blame for it.
How many other jobs pay $18 per hour with no college or vocational training?
Awfully good money to me for getting a job with a high school education.
a lot of jobs where risk of injury is present.
I donno about you, but I'd rather have my brakes bolted on by someone getting paid 18 bucks an hour, than the 7.50 an hour walmart equivalent toyota employee...
at the end of the day, that's 18 dollars that's going back into the economy, most of it the US economy (well, maybe not most of it if the outsourcing trend keeps up).
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2000 Excursion Limited 4x4 V10 - soon to not be stock anymore.
2004 F150 XLT screw 4x4 5.4 - 2.5 leveling kit, 34.5" BFGs - Gone
2004 mach1 mustang, holding the garage floor in place.
I donno about you, but I'd rather have my brakes bolted on by someone getting paid 18 bucks an hour, than the 7.50 an hour walmart equivalent toyota employee...
at the end of the day, that's 18 dollars that's going back into the economy, most of it the US economy (well, maybe not most of it if the outsourcing trend keeps up).
THAT is a very good way of seeing it, right there.
But I must also add that there are very few households that operate with one person working and one stay-at-home parent. Both work...its really the only way to get ahead nowadays, let alone tread water.
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Flowmaster and an Edge Evo
2" lvl kit and 285/75-17 TA-KO's
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Ford and GM as well as Chrysler have all but doomed American production aspects of their business. Turning down an American plant to build the Fiesta, and awarding it to Mexico is pure proof of this arrogance. But yet, The "Little 3" all want we Americans to BUY these autos. Even though they are NOT made in America. All the while management awards themselves big bucks and the line workers are being bought out and their replacement are being paid peanuts. America is becoming a self fulfilling hypocritical disgrace.
Greed and Unions are what has killed the American auto industry. The big 3 have to pay outrageous benefits and the CEO's and upper management are making all the money even though they show no profits.
In the mean time every employee is wondering how much longer they will even have a job. That's not good looking over your shoulder all the time and quality definitely suffers under these conditions.
It's pretty sad how the Big 3 can't make any money here so they move their operations to Canada or Mexico.
Toyota then decides to build their vehicles here and they make money hand over fist.
Maybe they will snatch up these plants dirt cheap and start building there too.
Our plastic injection molding plant was big into automotive parts (mainly safety restraint parts) for many years. Well thanks to the fuel prices and lack of sales, our plant is shutting down and I will be unemployed July 28.
It's time for the government to step up and do something or we need to overrun the government and start over with a government that serves the people, not big corporations that move all of our jobs overseas!!!!
Greed and Unions are what has killed the American auto industry. The big 3 have to pay outrageous benefits and the CEO's and upper management are making all the money even though they show no profits.
In the mean time every employee is wondering how much longer they will even have a job. That's not good looking over your shoulder all the time and quality definitely suffers under these conditions.
It's pretty sad how the Big 3 can't make any money here so they move their operations to Canada or Mexico.
Toyota then decides to build their vehicles here and they make money hand over fist.
Maybe they will snatch up these plants dirt cheap and start building there too.
You definately are correct to varying degrees. Who can tell me what FMC starts it's hourly employees at on a typical truck assembly line? I truely have no clue. What is considered as top pay in a FMC assembly person? How much overtime is available or mandatory for the assembly line workers?
In todays economy, I don't consider $20.00 per hour to be a liveable wage when trying to live the American dream.
The next time you see your local president, thank him for his efforts.
Tim
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Greed and Unions are what has killed the American auto industry. The big 3 have to pay outrageous benefits and the CEO's and upper management are making all the money even though they show no profits.
In the mean time every employee is wondering how much longer they will even have a job. That's not good looking over your shoulder all the time and quality definitely suffers under these conditions.
It's pretty sad how the Big 3 can't make any money here so they move their operations to Canada or Mexico.
Toyota then decides to build their vehicles here and they make money hand over fist.
Maybe they will snatch up these plants dirt cheap and start building there too.
You can't compare Canada and Mexico in the same breath. GM just closed a truck plant in Ontario putting a couple thousand out of work. The UAW had a strong wage agreement at this plant. A few years ago GM closed the Camaro/Firebird plant in Ontario. Until the dollar gap closed recently we were being gouged about another 30-50% on vehicle prices up here, even if built in Canada (even with free trade). Canada is not a cheap outsourcing location for the auto industry.
That said, I completely agree with the comments about irresponsibility of The industry, management and unions in not building the right quality and types of vehicles for the times. I thought they might have learned from the '70's.
Will the Vega and Pinto be coming back next ?
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84 Mercedes 300SD turbo-diesel(parts car also)
93 Honda Accord
77 Chev Class C Motorhome
and other rusty or rugged parts vehicles...
I donno about you, but I'd rather have my brakes bolted on by someone getting paid 18 bucks an hour, than the 7.50 an hour walmart equivalent toyota employee...
at the end of the day, that's 18 dollars that's going back into the economy, most of it the US economy (well, maybe not most of it if the outsourcing trend keeps up).
I didn't do a good job of making my point. I was referring to the person who was complaining that $30 per hour workers were getting replaced by people making the pittance of $18 per hour.
My point is that $18 per hour is pretty good for a job that just requires a HS education and that $30 per hour for an assembly line worker is what has led to many of the Big 3's problems.
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