HONDA outstrips Ford sales
#16
06-10-2008, 10:37 PM
#17
06-11-2008, 10:26 AM
#18
06-11-2008, 01:36 PM
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#19
06-12-2008, 10:15 AM
Post Fiend
The problem I have with those "initial quality" surveys, which are taken at the 90 day point is that they ask too much about the whole "experience" rather than just the facts about build quality and defects. I find big-city Ford dealerships the worst as far as old-time bad sales "experience". Dodge and Toyota are not far behind. GM (not just Saturn) and Honda dealerships just seem to be less high-pressure.
The three year survey is more informative, but lags too long to make a buying decision if a company has improved or gone down the toilet in the last couple of years.
Jim
The three year survey is more informative, but lags too long to make a buying decision if a company has improved or gone down the toilet in the last couple of years.
Jim
#20
07-11-2008, 06:14 AM
The ford focus has been listed on some of the high quality lists for a while. Probably not a bad buy but the corolla feels more comfortable to us 6ft plus guys. I will speculate both are of similar quality with corolla getting the better mileage. I compared both and decided to go with the corolla like you and am now waiting for one that the price is right on. With some hypermililng techniques I bet I can get 45mpg.
#21
08-22-2008, 01:34 PM
What a joke!
So since the big three can't compete with the Japanese, you're using the "patriotic" game to get people to buy american?
Just build better vehicles and people will buy. It's that simple.
So since the big three can't compete with the Japanese, you're using the "patriotic" game to get people to buy american?
Just build better vehicles and people will buy. It's that simple.
#23
10-30-2008, 04:43 PM
This line of reasoning is getting really old.
The Toyota plans in Texas create jobs for Americans, fool!
The dodge vehicles built in Mexico are patriotic? What about the Ford/GM built in Canada?
Build a vehicle that people want to buy.
The Toyota plans in Texas create jobs for Americans, fool!
The dodge vehicles built in Mexico are patriotic? What about the Ford/GM built in Canada?
Build a vehicle that people want to buy.
#24
10-31-2008, 08:52 AM
Agreed!
I find it funny that whenever the fact that Canada and Mexico build Ford/GM vehicles that it becomes a moot point. I guess seeing that we/they are neighbors to the US and different countries, it doesn't make it foreign? Also lets overlook the fact that Ford has built new factories in China and India and how many new jobs have they created on "home soil"?
Just and observation, I won't be surprised to hear a rebutal on this.....
It seems pretty easy. Alot of people get on Toyota because they seemed to have the media brainwashed into thinking that they are the cream of the crop. ( good for them ) But don't you think Ford playes that game in making the F150 the "best selling" truck in North America?
Just and observation, I won't be surprised to hear a rebutal on this.....
It seems pretty easy. Alot of people get on Toyota because they seemed to have the media brainwashed into thinking that they are the cream of the crop. ( good for them ) But don't you think Ford playes that game in making the F150 the "best selling" truck in North America?
#25
10-31-2008, 01:58 PM
Who spends more on R&D in the US, Ford/GM or Honda/Toyota? Who has more vested in the US economy? Who employs more white collar staff? Which set of manufacturers provides more American jobs?
You people that buy into this global b.s. are too myopic in your view on the topic.
#26
10-31-2008, 10:04 PM
NAFTA needs to be eliminated. Period.
Bring the jobs back over here and keep improving the quality of our American vehicles and all of the big 3 will benefit!!
I personally will only buy from 2 of the big 3 and none from an import.
#27
11-01-2008, 03:16 PM
US management used to be able to produce products that were competitive overseas. Why reward incompetence by buying what doesn't compete?
Caterpillar exports plenty of heavy equipment, worldwide, and uses lots of US labor to do it. There is no inherent reason the rest of US industry cannot compete.
Drive down wages which will drive down expenditures which will drive down prices (note how quickly gasoline dropped with reduced consumption) and compete with the world LIKE WE USED TO. Reduced wages will force reduction in the consumption of foreign-made consumer goods and force down the prices of anyone who wants to sell anything in this country. We need a wage realignment to compete, and we may get that due to deflation.
There is nothing the rest of the world makes that we cannot make, but our labor is currently too expensive (and consumer good prices reflect this). If our competitors can rise from disaster (China had almost no industry in 1948) so can we. IMO because we cling to symbols like GM and Ford it is a drag on remaking the economy, just as the bitter refusal of US companies to invest in capital equipment ensured our foreign competitors would eat up our market share.
Caterpillar exports plenty of heavy equipment, worldwide, and uses lots of US labor to do it. There is no inherent reason the rest of US industry cannot compete.
Drive down wages which will drive down expenditures which will drive down prices (note how quickly gasoline dropped with reduced consumption) and compete with the world LIKE WE USED TO. Reduced wages will force reduction in the consumption of foreign-made consumer goods and force down the prices of anyone who wants to sell anything in this country. We need a wage realignment to compete, and we may get that due to deflation.
There is nothing the rest of the world makes that we cannot make, but our labor is currently too expensive (and consumer good prices reflect this). If our competitors can rise from disaster (China had almost no industry in 1948) so can we. IMO because we cling to symbols like GM and Ford it is a drag on remaking the economy, just as the bitter refusal of US companies to invest in capital equipment ensured our foreign competitors would eat up our market share.
