Not a silly question at all. I keep my tires rotated and properly filled. I also keep my foot out of the accelerator most of the time.
One of the things I am going to try is a different fuel than Murphy (Walmart). Is there such a thing as top tier for Diesel?
If the pumps have a cetane rating on them look for the higher rating. Kind of like octane rating. Once it gets past 55 (I think) your engine doesn't benifit any more.
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If the pumps have a cetane rating on them look for the higher rating. Kind of like octane rating. Once it gets past 55 (I think) your engine doesn't benifit any more.
Good Luck on finding diesel with cetane over 40. The last time I looked it was 36. I always add diesel kleen and a bit of 2 stroke oil to all my diesel engines. All my stuff is old and low sulphur was unheard of when they were built.
Good Luck on finding diesel with cetane over 40. The last time I looked it was 36. I always add diesel kleen and a bit of 2 stroke oil to all my diesel engines. All my stuff is old and low sulphur was unheard of when they were built.
i was adding 1 oz per 10 gallon of 2 stroke and 1 oz per gallon of diesel kleen...i think. i stopped using it because i ran out. during the winter i ran thier anti-gel formula because i dont plug my truck in, now ill have to remember to pick up some regular forumla to keep on top of it.
Not a silly question at all. I keep my tires rotated and properly filled. I also keep my foot out of the accelerator most of the time.
One of the things I am going to try is a different fuel than Murphy (Walmart). Is there such a thing as top tier for Diesel?
Nope only realy differs state to state from what i've seen and the junk they call diesel in Nv horible, I picked up a few mpg when I went to Cali. Try a heavy dose of diesel kleen might clean stuff out and get your mpg up. Just dump the whole quart size bottle in.
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I just paid 5.06 for diesel yesterday and I`ll be back again today for more.sucks when $100 gets you less than 20 gals.
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On Last Night's New's here in California ,They said Diesel and Premium would get to $6.00 by end of summer, And a Range up to $10.00.
Yesterday with my own eye's saw $5.00 per gallon on a sign for full serve.
At the Colo River in AZ, I heard it's over $8.50 per gal to gas up your boat at the dock.
I think $10.00 is the breaking point, And a lot of Sh** will change.
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I have to be honest I have tried to sell my truck but there is no market right now. Ok so I tried to trade it in for a small vehicle (would tow my construction trailers with old 94 chevy) but would have to take a $13,000 loss on the current loan. Hard to do that.
It's just not the cost of fuel but everything else is also going up, except the pay. We have almost everything shipped and it's getting pretty expensive. The other issue is we only have propane and diesel for heating choices. We heat year round so it's going to be scarry this winter. I forsee a lot of firewood this winter.
For the communities that are not on the road system up here they are paying in the $8-$10 for fuel.
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Check out this report.
The other day I typed in gas prices . Opened about 5-7 of the links and per roved through them all. I found this article real interesting reporting. The next day or so our local paper ran a full page article on the subject. In that paper only about 5 or so lines mentioned the trading issue. I loath Gov over site my self as many here have mentioned as well, but. The loss of trading over site in the commodities market regarding oil & gas in the U.S. according to this report, has caused , and will continue to cause ever increasing cost. Speculation in such markets = the tail waging the dog. This scenario is stoppable with carefully placed restrictions(Gov.). As the article shows, such restrictions where in place until a short time after our involvement in operation in Iraq. ? The writer is very careful not to point fingers and only mentions the Gov. over site group CFTC, but Policy makers have yet to act or so far as I know, even mentioned the lack of over site.
I typed in again today to find the link, to post it here, but the address on the bottom of my printed page didn't google. So I typed in
" Perhaps 60 percent of today's oil price is pure speculation "
Then up came, no less than ten links to sites featuring this article By-
F. William Engdahl , This fella did some work. Now its our turn. We cannot sit Idle or, We will be paying 8+ $ a gallon, as in the U.K. and other places effected by this set of trading practices. Has anyone here traded commodities? I haven't, but I've have heard about the volatility of the practice.
Perhaps, some one in a high ranking government position or two has interest there hu?
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I originally posted on 03-03-2008, 03:34 PM, with a price of $3.99, now its June 1st and I see $5.00. 2 months, now thats hard to believe! And no reason why diesel is more than gas!!
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Diesel more than gas?
Awhile back, a lower sulfur, less soot fuel was mandated in the U.S. . Thank your congress persons.
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Don't believe it. Low sulfur or not.
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Low sulfer fule was mandated way befor this thread was started and even befor the insane compleetly unjustifyed rise in the price of fule. It only went a a litle whan low sulpher came out then more recently it sky rocketed in the 6 months I've owned my truck the price has gone up over 200%
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Where are all the green zelots now? You are getting what you want, the market has to align itself for bio (a good thing) and ethanol (worst idea since the corvair) to compete head to head against hydrocarbon fuels. You didn't think that the traders were going to not have a choice on what to make money on, did you?
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Low sulfer fule was mandated way befor this thread was started and even befor the insane compleetly unjustifyed rise in the price of fule. It only went a a litle whan low sulpher came out then more recently it sky rocketed in the 6 months I've owned my truck the price has gone up over 200%
Well your only half right, yep is was mandated before this thread started, however the first refinery turnarounds have just occurred this spring. Probably just a coincidence though.
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OK...here is the real reason all fuels are going up. In that diesel is a little higher than regular unleaded is another matter...we can discuss that later if you want.
Inflation is the reason. Not the inflation number you hear that is watered down on the news...but real core inflation.
Inflation is the difference in the production in currency (flooding the market with more dollars) versus the goods and services available in the economy. If the FED prints billions of dollars and the goods and services do not increase...then we all pay more dollars for the same goods and services.
That is inflation and the reason fuel costs more. Your dollars are worth less so they buy less.
People around the world do not want US dollars so they charge more for their goods (oil).
Here is an example. In the ancient Roman times when Rome ruled the world (or what little they knew of it) an ounce of gold bought a man a very high quality suit (toga) leather belt and shoes. Today an ounce of gold will buy a man a very high quality suit, leather belt and shoes. The value is the same. Back in ancient Rome there were no US dollars...but today an ounce of gold goes for about $881.
The value of gold does not change...what you have to exchange for it is the thing that changes...you can go back and calculate gold prices back 50 years...an ounce of gold would have bought approximately the same number of diesel gallons through out...no matter its worth in US Dollars.
If the rise in the cost of fule was due only to inflation then the profit wouldn't go up yet quarter after quarter the oil companies are reporting record profits. The fact that the US doller is quickly catching up to the peso does play a roll in the price of fule as well as other imported goods.
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I wanted to give an update to my efforts to increase my mileage. First of all I am an idiot. Discount tire has been rotating my tires and always set the tires at 32 psi. I assumed they knew what they were doing. After talking with you guys, I checked the door and realized they should be at 50 psi. As I said, I am an idiot. I aired up my tires and put in a quart of diesel kleen, half in each tank. Off I went to Dallas to help my elderly parents. 15.87 mpg, up 2.5. I drove it pretty hard (for me), 74 mph on the hwy, semi-aggressive driving in traffic. This fill-up I went with 8 ounces of d-kleen per tank. We will see how it goes with my regular work schedule. I have some more ideas I want to run past you guys later.
Discount tire has been rotating my tires and always set the tires at 32 psi.
I'd file a written complaint with the local police, they're going to kill somone if they keep doing that. If they claim they don't understand, they can ask the mechanics in their own shop...
You are sort of correct. They are reporting record dollars in the door showing as profit. (Say 40 billion this versus 30 billion last year).
The percent of profit is right around 10%...that has not changed.
Record dollars comeing in...but not a record percentage.
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If the rise in the cost of fule was due only to inflation then the profit wouldn't go up yet quarter after quarter the oil companies are reporting record profits. The fact that the US doller is quickly catching up to the peso does play a roll in the price of fule as well as other imported goods.
I have some additional ideas for increasing mileage. I have been reading about people called (I believe) hypermilers. They go to extremes to increase mpg. Some of the stuff is too radical for me (they take off the mirrors to reduce wind drag, take off power steering pumps, put cardboard in front of radiator to reduce wind drag, coast down hills with engine off, etc). But some of it seems useful.
After discussing this with a workmate, he started using his GPS unit so that he arrives at work to the minute. That way he can reduce his speed in route. His FJ Cruiser mpg have gone up about 2. I have found that if I leave 5 minutes early, my top speed only has to be 50 instead of 65 or 70 to arrive at the same time (I am also going to use my GPS). I am going to try that for the next couple of tanks. Another thing they do is avoid fast takeoffs and try not to use their brakes, using timing instead with stoplights. They claim that by driving habits alone, they can increase a hybrids gas mileage by 15 or 20 mpg.
Has anyone researched the difference with the tailgate up or down? Bed cover vs none? Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Short box trucks seem to benafit from having the tailgate up, I'm not sure about 8F boxes.
I've had good results with the tailgate up (8F bed). If conditions are dry and winds are calm, I can get 20 MPG averaging 70 MPH. The other option to turning the engine off on downhill, is to allow the speed to drift up and use that momentum. Not possible in all situations of course. I might try and make a trip with the tailgate completely removed since that is the one situation that the mythbusters did NOT test.....
I have never to date tried running with the tailgate down. Diddo for a bed cover, but I think a bed cover should help.
Personally, I think the ultimate "aero mod" would be to add a belly pan under the truck. Just crawl under there to get an idea what sort of wind drag is happening under the truck.
One mod I highly recomend, is to adjust the cruise control to give the bare minimum throttle to keep the truck going at cruise speed. The factory setting is designed to impress you with all the power, not very good for fuel economy.
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I might try and make a trip with the tailgate completely removed since that is the one situation that the mythbusters did NOT test.....
One mod I highly recomend, is to adjust the cruise control to give the bare minimum throttle to keep the truck going at cruise speed. The factory setting is designed to impress you with all the power, not very good for fuel economy.
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I aired up my tires and put in a quart of diesel kleen, half in each tank. Off I went to Dallas to help my elderly parents. 15.87 mpg, up 2.5. I drove it pretty hard (for me), 74 mph on the hwy, semi-aggressive driving in traffic. This fill-up I went with 8 ounces of d-kleen per tank. We will see how it goes with my regular work schedule. I have some more ideas I want to run past you guys later.
Lariat AC leather seats power everything w/full cluster, sterling rear 3.08LS gears, E4OD trans, ram intake ATS 088 turbo
!!!the Price Of Diesel!!!
