62 292 timing gear dilemma
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62 292 timing gear dilemma
Hi all,
I have a 62 F350 with a 292 which jumped time and bent most of the intake push rods. I couldn't find any contact marks on the pistons so I don't think valve/piston contact was an issue. What's strange is that it ran beautifully right to shut down on one day and wouldn't start the next. After troubleshooting the ignition system, I pulled a valve cover to find the intake rods where missing! I've removed the heads and timing cover but have discovered another problem. With the crank set at #1 TDC the cam gear key looks to be 180 out. When I spin the camshaft to aim the rotor at the #1 cylinder, I can't get the timing marks to line up with the indicator links at 3 o'clk. Has anyone dealt with something like this? I feel like there's something I'm missing but the ignition timing was never messed with. Could the dist timing jumped at the same time as the valve timing? I've heard that the y-blocks were known to throw their timing on shut down. Is that true? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
Scott
I have a 62 F350 with a 292 which jumped time and bent most of the intake push rods. I couldn't find any contact marks on the pistons so I don't think valve/piston contact was an issue. What's strange is that it ran beautifully right to shut down on one day and wouldn't start the next. After troubleshooting the ignition system, I pulled a valve cover to find the intake rods where missing! I've removed the heads and timing cover but have discovered another problem. With the crank set at #1 TDC the cam gear key looks to be 180 out. When I spin the camshaft to aim the rotor at the #1 cylinder, I can't get the timing marks to line up with the indicator links at 3 o'clk. Has anyone dealt with something like this? I feel like there's something I'm missing but the ignition timing was never messed with. Could the dist timing jumped at the same time as the valve timing? I've heard that the y-blocks were known to throw their timing on shut down. Is that true? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
Scott
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Timing marks do not line up on a Y block
timing marks for the crank is installed paralell to the ground and facing the steering box . Then place the cam timing mark exactly 12 pins from the crank mark.
They do not face each other like any other small block/big block ford or chevrolet.
Garbz
timing marks for the crank is installed paralell to the ground and facing the steering box . Then place the cam timing mark exactly 12 pins from the crank mark.
They do not face each other like any other small block/big block ford or chevrolet.
Garbz
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When you said that you spun the cam, to aim the rotor at the #1 cyl, you did mean the #1 plug wire location on the dist. cap, right??? I knew a guy one time that kept telling me that it would line up right. He was actually pointing the rotor towards the cylinder itself. Just making sure.
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Timing marks do not line up on a Y block
timing marks for the crank is installed paralell to the ground and facing the steering box . Then place the cam timing mark exactly 12 pins from the crank mark.
They do not face each other like any other small block/big block ford or chevrolet.
Garbz
timing marks for the crank is installed paralell to the ground and facing the steering box . Then place the cam timing mark exactly 12 pins from the crank mark.
They do not face each other like any other small block/big block ford or chevrolet.
Garbz
I put both timing marks on the indicator links in the timing chain and both marks are at the 3 o'clk position on the drivers side. There's 12 pins between the timing marks. At that point, if you look at the dist, it's pointing at the opposite side of the cap away from the #1 position. Now if you start to crank the engine forward, the intake valve starts to open immediately. So that's telling me #1 cylinder has just started the intake stroke versus just firing after the compression stroke. That's where it gets confusing. Unless the cam gear was marked incorrectly, I don't see how you can verify #1 will fire when it's suppose to. This is my first Y-block so if there is some wierd timing quirk, I'm just not familiar with it.
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