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Old 05-16-2008, 12:49 PM
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Fuel prices and people complaining.....

I constantly hear people complaining about fuel prices, including myself. One of the most common ones is "whats wrong with those people that control the prices" The real question should be "WHATS WRONG WITH US THAT KEEP PAYING?" I hear and read alot about everybody in the nation refusing to buy gas on a certain day, but nothing ever comes of it. I remember a guy that I used to work with used to say "If youre not going to do anything about changing it, than dont b**** about it" How true is that?

Im all for buying big trucks and wasting fuel; its the AMERICAN WAY!! This country should be moving FORWARD. By that I mean as you move forward in your life, you should be upgrading what you have. I bought a $30,000 truck that got 14MPG because I COULD!!! I have a good job and make pretty decent money, and now because of the current fuel prices, I am REDUCED to driving a 93 ford excort that gets 32mpg. I am a TRUCK kind of guy, not a little rollerskate of a turd. I dont know about the rest of you, but that sure sounds like moving BACKWARDS to me, not forward!

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I think the fuel prices do suck. I still drive my truck even though the fuel is high, i just drive it a little less. I could drive it alot more, but I choose to save a little extra cash to have for other things.

I actually dont even really complain about it much. It sucks though.

I dont think the dont buy fuel for a day would work. I do think if a person could manage to not buy fuel, from one specific company, say for a week, or better yet a month, then yes they would feel it. But it would have to be a huge group effort that would be very difficult to mobilize.
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Service stations in Canada installed video at the pumps and now play porn movies while you fuel up so at least you can see someone else getting screwed while you fill your tank!! Sorry...old joke - just couldn't resist.

YOU THINK YOU HAVE IT BAD!!??!!

The price of gas is a part of life and I consider it one of my fixed expenses....doesn't stop me from driving my truck every day!! Keep in mind that in Canada we are currently paying $1.32 per litre ($5.00 per US Gallon - $6.00 per Cdn Gallon - IMPERIAL units) Oh yeah, and I fill premium fuel (91 octane) only and pay $1.42 per litre. ($5.37 per US Gallon and $6.45 per Cdn Gallon)

I look at it this way, our gallons of gas are bigger in Canada so our fuel mileage actually looks better when we quote MPG. I get about 18 MPG highway (but on an imperial gallon I actually have 3/4 of a litre of fuel more than an american gallon - they are 20% larger). In actuality I am getting about 15MPG on the highway with my truck if I use a US Gallon.

Now I'm starting to confuse myself with all this conversion. Why aren't we all using the same measurement system again???


Of course, cigarettes are now $11.00 a pack and I'm still smoking over half a pack per day!!! Funny how I said I would quit when they went over $5.00. If it helps, our cigarette packs hold 25 cigarettes, not 20.
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Old 05-17-2008, 05:24 PM
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Fuel prices=inflation...

Inflation
Loss of purchasing power of money caused by growth of the amount of money in circulation and reflected in a rise in prices without a proportionate increase in value of the things purchased

Blame the Federal Reserve (illegal by Constitution but thats another issue)

Blame Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernake appeasing Clinton and Bush II

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Sheesh - cry and complain. Nothing new - I just deal with it. When I bought my truck it was for capabilty, not MPG. I'd still buy it even if gas was $6/gal.

WildWildWest - why are you filling with premium?? - your wasting your money dude! (unless you run 1) high compression or 2) a supercharger or turbo) - jusrt an inquiry, it's your $$ and you can do as you wish

That's my 2 centavos..
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:54 PM
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Fuel prices are to high, I used to fill my motorhome with a 80 gal tank for $200. I just bought my truck to pull a fifth wheel and was suprised that here in socal, I thought trucks would be cheaper now with such high prices.

I couldn't have been more wrong, every truck I seemed to like was sold before I could go look at it. I was at a rv dealer today looking at 5ers and the place was really crowded.

It seem's like around here anyway people are still spending and fuel prices dont seem to matter much, people still drive 95 down the freeway.
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I am a builder/contractor by trade, so I pretty muuch need my truck on a daily basis. I have thought about buying some little pos nissan or toyota truck to drive to work on days that I don't tow anything. On larger jobs I leave my equipment trailer onsite so I don't tow a lot. I do drive a lot of miles (about 22k per year) and probably half of them are unloaded or loaded lightly. The rest are towing or while plowing snow. I could put a ladder rack on a small truck and still make trips to the lumber yard, go look at jobs, etc.

BUT...........I just know there would be too many occasions where I drove the little truck to work, and I get there and need to haul something. Plus by the time I pay for the small truck, pay for insurance, tires, maintenance, put a ladder rack and tool box on it, etc etc., am I really saving anything? Then, it goes to " i need 4wd because I honestly couldnt get out of my driveway at times in the winter with a 2wd" If i'm buying a 4x4, why not just buy at least a 3/4 ton so I can actually do something with it? So I'm right back to what I have now....one truck, one payment, one insurance bill, one maintenance bill.......and crappy MPG.
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Old 05-17-2008, 08:36 PM
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It does amaze me... used to be at the pumps we talked to strangers about the weather or the girl in the short shorts pumping gas. Now we talk about where will these prices end up? not caring any more about the girl at pump #5. It occurs to me that we as American citizens are gonna have to band together (which is something we are not used to doing anymore) and just stop buying gas cold turkey. now i know your thinking we have to go to work and the store and church and such. My idea is we all get together and take or at least 85 to 90% of us and just dont go anywhere say on saturday everyone stay off the road unless of course your kid just broke his arm on the swingset. I think just that little effort by us collectively would dig into the oil companys profits dont you. Im game!
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Old 05-17-2008, 08:53 PM
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is gas high?

here are so things i use to tell people that gas is not really that bad.

Go into the station and buy a bottle of water, drink it, then fill the bottle with gas. You thought gas was expensive, it is just water and look what people pay for it for goodness sakes.

I am a school bus driver trainer.

If gas is so high, how come there are still so many parents driving their kids to school, because they are to good to ride with everyone else?

If gas is so high, how come the high school parking lot is full of cars and trucks that don't go but from home to school and around and around town. Most of these kids dont work, it is a social staus, and we are a little hich town.

I will know when gas is too high, the kids will stop driving, paremts will stop carring their kids, and the school buses will fill up.

It has not happened yet, and I have only got a very few calls from ppl asking when the bus comes by their house.


ON anouther note, i figuerd diesel must have took a bug drop, I am in AZ working right now, and I have seen several diesel trucks sitting in the parking lot running, with the a/c on, and no one in the truck.

Is diesel too high? Not for them.

of course i drove to the store that i coulda walked to, but i like to drive and i like my truck, so i pay what i have to,
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WildWildWest - why are you filling with premium?? - your wasting your money dude! (unless you run 1) high compression or 2) a supercharger or turbo) - jusrt an inquiry, it's your $$ and you can do as you wish
I'm tuned for 91 Octane - Diablosport Predator- and my gas milage did improve by about 10% with it. Premium has no advantage unless you are tuned for it.
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I bought my diesel for its pulling power and not the price of fuel.Needed towing ability and still do.It hurts to pay so much but if you want toys you have to pay.Only good side to it is we (USA) still pay far less then many others
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I'm tuned for 91 Octane - Diablosport Predator- and my gas milage did improve by about 10% with it. Premium has no advantage unless you are tuned for it.
Got it - as mentioned...just curious...

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Well, this might make me unpopular, but I am that guy driving 65 on the freeway that you all have to work around. Don't worry, I keep it in the slow lane. I set the cruise to 65, pick a radio station that I like, and just relax and watch the people blow by me. Hey, it's their money.

I won't go so far as suggesting stepped-up enforcement of speed laws as a conservation method; like I said, it's YOUR money. However, I'll bet if you ran the numbers, it would have a substantial effect. I guess we'll save that for when it becomes a national security issue, and there's rationing of fuel. I wouldn't be surprised if that's not too far off, really. If that's true, we kind of have a responsibility to conserve a little now, don't we?.

So to all of the people who suggest not buying gas on a certain day, or not buying from certain providers, or whatever, I would suggesst this: Plan your day a little better, and slow down. Fuel consumption goes up exponentially with speed.

I also keep my tires pumped up, my intercooler boots tight, my air filter clean, and I don't stick my foot in it when the light turns green.

And even with all of this, I still enjoy the hell out of driving my SD.
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I bought mine SD to tow with the first time gas went up over $3 a gallon. I knew then it was going to be expensive to run. It makes towing a nonissue.
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here are so things i use to tell people that gas is not really that bad.

Go into the station and buy a bottle of water, drink it, then fill the bottle with gas. You thought gas was expensive, it is just water and look what people pay for it for goodness sakes.

I am a school bus driver trainer.

If gas is so high, how come there are still so many parents driving their kids to school, because they are to good to ride with everyone else?

In all fairness, tell us how the kids "act" on the bus. I'd guess you'd not want your kids on that bus either. Parents these days don't have the authority or leverage to discipline their children like our parents had. We have to be a little more clever and try to atleast steer them "away" from trouble.

If gas is so high, how come the high school parking lot is full of cars and trucks that don't go but from home to school and around and around town. Most of these kids dont work, it is a social staus, and we are a little hich town.

Let's see - I'd wager that the bigger % of folks that have teenage children these days also have a 40 hr per week job. In some cases, the "single" parent is busting their ass working TWO jobs to make ends meet. This leaving very little time in the mornings and afternoons to take their children to school, let alone ask for time off every day to pick them up. So, I guess a parent could >ask< their child to ride the bus, however, read the first comment.

I will know when gas is too high, the kids will stop driving, paremts will stop carring their kids, and the school buses will fill up.

Even though fuel prices are where they are - people will lead their life. With that said, life brings many faces, including a driving teenager.

It has not happened yet, and I have only got a very few calls from ppl asking when the bus comes by their house.


ON anouther note, i figuerd diesel must have took a bug drop, I am in AZ working right now, and I have seen several diesel trucks sitting in the parking lot running, with the a/c on, and no one in the truck.

Is diesel too high? Not for them.

of course i drove to the store that i coulda walked to, but i like to drive and i like my truck, so i pay what i have to,

Pot, meet Kettle?

Mind you, I understand what you're trying to say. I do, however know that people are creatures of habbit. Take a look back at say, the last 50 years and see what role fuel prices have played in the lives of a "working" class person.

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