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Old 05-16-2008, 12:08 PM
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Sick of Bulky Keys.. How to replace Key ignition with a Switch

Like the title said, I'm really sick of these big keys on my '99 Ranger. I had a dummy key made today to test out a theory I heard about just keeping the transponder key close to the ignition.. That didn't work. I just read about keeping the transponder key in the vehicle and always using the keyless entry, that's fine I guess, But I'd really like just a simple ignition button. However, from what I've read about the PATS system I'm not sure it's even possible. Any Ideas?

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You need OBD-II scanner to be sure transponder code is transmitted to ECM and does it log on ore not.
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Ok, To update my situation, I opened up the column and held the Transponder tight on the cylinder. I was then able to start the truck with the dummy key. Now my only concern is the "what if"s The truck gets stolen, with the new texas laws on Vehicle Theft (Leaving your keys in the ignition makes you an accessory to your own vehicle's theft) Will that Transponder being bypassed count the same way?
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Dumb question is about to follow. Warning Warning. Can you use electrical tape to secure the bulky key to the cylinder and then close up the column, and see if you new key will still start the truck?
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Look, key should be inside pick up coil. if you remove coil, put key inside and secure key (ore chip from key only) in pick up coil and hide it inside collumn any key will start engine, becouse every time ignition on transponder sends code to ECM and logs in.

SOmetimes drivers of our firm loose keys. I remove cylinders from column and give them blank key, but I reprogram ECUs for these keys. It is impossible to star engine having no code. So they use electronic anty-thieft only and no semu was stolen.
(we have 450 semis: Mercedes Actros and Volvo FH series....)
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I have other quation.... If all keys are stolen/lost what is a procedure to get new and log off old keys. What tool/scanner/computer to use? I'm Mercedes Truck technician and I've never had to do DRT works with ford light trucks. Of cource I can use key immo copiers, pull Flash and E-prom from ECM, but how dealers do it? How Mercedes Dealer does I know. BTW if keys are lost on some Merc cars and vans we have to change EZS (electronically controlled ignition lock) ore WSK (encrypting module).... Odered in Germany for one car and programmed ones.... Single use unit.... All is done to make thiefs life hard
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They make PATS bypass kits for remote start kits... may look into those
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as I understand bypass kit transmits code like a key... does it?
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I believe the kits fool the receiver coil into thinking the key is present...not 100% sure though
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I see no other way. I do net really see a reason to use a mechical key. Mercedes key for examle have no metal parts to turn lock. There is a DRT cheap inside. No tranponder code - no log in - no start. There is one spare key mounted in keyless acces to open car is battery is dead. Electronics is so suffisticated then it is inpossible to lock yourself out of cabine.

I think we'll see a time when we'll enter login and password to drive to work.....
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i hate that new garbage, on my "older" stuff i just cut the head off the key and slide the teeth into the ignition. looks like no key, but twist/start and go. i hate keys too. both the taurus and ranger have been rigged for years. its been the first mod ive made for the last 4 vehicles i have. i leave just enough stub so the needle nose pliers can extract the key when its sold/traded. in this pic the ignition is rigged. i paint the end of the stub black with a paint pen. not easy to see.
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I can see selfmade arm rest.... I do not too things in ranger - arm rest for left hand in door is too narrow, stock arm rest is too low
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I believe the kits fool the receiver coil into thinking the key is present...not 100% sure though
The Ford transponder bypass kit (I like this one better than any of the other ones out there) has a ring that you put around the lock cylinder and when the transponder is energized by the remote start unit it emulates a transponder chip in the key. You could use a remote start bypass kit or you can cut the metal off of the key and tie the plastic head to the ignition column. I certainly wouldn't leave a key in the truck though.
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Thats how it works... couldn't remember. Something about fooling the PATS receiver. haha. Not quite sure I'd leave my keys cut off in the ignition... but different strokes for different folks I'm told...
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Ford immo has constant code, no DRT encrypcter in coil, becouse there is no EHZ ore WSK like mercedes have and this PATS receiver records code when you learn it and later trasmitt it directly to PCM. This is the simplest immobilizer. More expencive cars have special module that reads key transponder code, gets code from engine ecu, and generates log in code. It is impossible to bypass it. I pulled out a chip from ignition key and secured it inside pick-up coil, hid coil in steering column and re-programed engine ecu.
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