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Old 05-15-2008, 07:43 PM
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Autolite's made in china???

Since when did Autolite's start being made in china? i've always used autolite 45's in my FE's and it's stamped right on the spark plug "MADE IN USA" i went to buy a set today and there's nothing at all stamped on the spark plug but the box reads "made in china" it's been a few years since i bought a set, guess i'll have to find a new brand, any suggestions.
   
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:17 PM
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move to another country and be happy LOL... jk but the way corps are selling their soles for the all mighty dollar it wont be long now. My suggestion...learn to speak as many languages as possible and trust no one!
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We did what Napa told me was like doing a "death blow" to our 360. He strongly urged autolights/champion/insert well advertised plug here. I told him nope, we've had excellent luck with NGK V-Power plugs in our turbo charged probe..and that we would like to continue with that company.

Truck seems to like the NGK's and has not given us any problems..Sadly most of what we are always used to being "made in the USA" is turning into "Made FOR the USA" overseas. Personal experiences will dictate what people will always use. From my own personal experience? I'll NEVER use any plug made by AC-Delco, or AutoLite. I had to extract the remains of an AC plug out of a chevy truck when the steel just above the threaded section fell apart during a tune up. We examined the remains and found a major machining error that left the shell about the same thickness as a sheet of thick paper--And the autolites used in our turbo probe? Ran like total garbage, rough idle and a lackluster response once it hit over 6 lbs of boost. Put the NGK's into it? Thing ran like it was on speed.

Everyone's got their own opinions. Just use what works for you and that's it! Just don't cheap out on things because it seems like a good deal. Quality costs...

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Old 05-15-2008, 10:39 PM
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I work at a parts store and did not know that autolites switched to china
I tell every one With a older ford autolites. NGK is a very NICE plug for High RPM,or turbo apps.
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:19 PM
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I went to the boat shop this week for fresh plugs for the Merc 135 2 stroke, they handed me 6 NGK's (gapless) and a bill for $32.40+tax the Champion at AutoStoned® was $2.00 a plug. I returned the NGK's picked up a 9.00 fuel fitting I needed and put 20.00 fuel in the tank. Sometimes the extra cost is just pure BS IMO.. now I'm sure I could have located the NGK at a parts(waffle) house for a bit more than the champions. However that would require time, effort, fuel which to me all equals $$$ So the boat runs great and 5gal of gas is enough to get a full day of fishing in. See you all after they stop biting
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We did what Napa told me was like doing a "death blow" to our 360. He strongly urged autolights/champion/insert well advertised plug here. I told him nope, we've had excellent luck with NGK V-Power plugs in our turbo charged probe..and that we would like to continue with that company.

Truck seems to like the NGK's and has not given us any problems..Sadly most of what we are always used to being "made in the USA" is turning into "Made FOR the USA" overseas. Personal experiences will dictate what people will always use. From my own personal experience? I'll NEVER use any plug made by AC-Delco, or AutoLite. I had to extract the remains of an AC plug out of a chevy truck when the steel just above the threaded section fell apart during a tune up. We examined the remains and found a major machining error that left the shell about the same thickness as a sheet of thick paper--And the autolites used in our turbo probe? Ran like total garbage, rough idle and a lackluster response once it hit over 6 lbs of boost. Put the NGK's into it? Thing ran like it was on speed.

Everyone's got their own opinions. Just use what works for you and that's it! Just don't cheap out on things because it seems like a good deal. Quality costs...

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So it's better to buy Japanese plugs than Chinese? I don't think so, buy American or you won't have any American parts pretty soon.
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So it's better to buy Japanese plugs than Chinese?
Actually, yes! Japan has worked hard to improve product quality. If it involves electronics, automation, or process control, Japan is a world class competitor. There is plenty of cheap labor in less developed countries.

The last standard resistor plugs I bought were Champion, they run well so far. They replaced Bosch Supers that I installed two years ago in our XJ. The Bosches ran well, but the price doubled, so I'm willing to shop.
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It all boils down to personal feelings and experiences. I happen to like NGK's and feel they make a quality product.

Others like AutoLites, Champion, etc... As for purchasing products made in the USA? I always do my best in that regard, but trying to find anything 'low cost and effective' lately seems to come with a made in japan/china label attached to it. In my opinion? I'd rather see Japan companies get the money, and not china...Provided there is not a decent source of made in usa products for the same application.

Even the U-Joints that I purchased from NAPA? Had "Made in China" buried in the small print. I'm not a fan of outsourcing--but when it comes down to it? We still need the parts---

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It all boils down to personal feelings and experiences. I happen to like NGK's and feel they make a quality product.

Others like AutoLites, Champion, etc... As for purchasing products made in the USA? I always do my best in that regard, but trying to find anything 'low cost and effective' lately seems to come with a made in japan/china label attached to it. In my opinion? I'd rather see Japan companies get the money, and not china...Provided there is not a decent source of made in usa products for the same application.

Even the U-Joints that I purchased from NAPA? Had "Made in China" buried in the small print. I'm not a fan of outsourcing--but when it comes down to it? We still need the parts---

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I agree, not that either of them will ever get our back in time of need, but I'd be inclined to think Japan has our best interest at heart of the two. Japan is by a far cry one of the worlds leaders in moving fwd in todays market. China on the other hand is a quick buck nation.
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Being that Motorcraft and Autolite plugs are the same thing, anyone check a Motorcraft package lately? Just curious.

I use them in my modulars, but I would probably use a good ole Champion if I had a running FE at the moment

Never had occasion to use NGK's, and Bosch always gave me fits when people would use them in British sportscars (like the Triumph TR7) - put Champions in them, they ran great.

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Being that Motorcraft and Autolite plugs are the same thing, anyone check a Motorcraft package lately? Just curious.
I wondered the same thing, i'll need to check into that, some people disregard the autolites as just another cheap spark plug but i've always liked them in my old fords, inexpensive doesn't always mean "cheap" but now that they're made in china i may need to reconsider that.
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Anyone ever used the E3 plug with the cage built around it? I've only seen it advertised on TV and was wondering if they would work in our trucks.

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Gimicks are just that and don't work. The best plug change you can do for the FE engines is to stop using the spec'd plug and go to the extended tip plug the car engines use. Improves mileage and plug life.
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Gimicks are just that and don't work. The best plug change you can do for the FE engines is to stop using the spec'd plug and go to the extended tip plug the car engines use. Improves mileage and plug life.
? You would just walk in and order a plug for a car with a 390 ? trucks call for a different plug ? sorry DNS over here.. just take what the folks hand me for the truck and they always match the ones in hand (taken off the motor for reference) blind leading the blind LOL
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Being that Motorcraft and Autolite plugs are the same thing, anyone check a Motorcraft package lately? Just curious.
Actually they are not quite the same thing. Both are made by Honeywell if I remember correctly from the Taurus Forum. However, since many with the Vulcan and Duratec engine find that only the Motorcraft plugs tend to last we naturally use those double platinums over all others. So one fellow wrote to Honeywell and asked them if they were the same. Honeywell answered that the "Motorcraft" plugs were made to Ford's exact specifications but only said the Autolites were quality plugs yet left the Ford spec comment off. Needless to say that was obvious. I use Motorcraft in the newer cars and have yet to see Made in China on them. Have seen assembled in Mexico of US components. In all my older Fords I use my large nos supply of BF-42's.
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