Killin the little man

[empiretc]

business is business, and it's booming for them right now. Only real guff I have with "big oil" is their lethargy towards building more refineries. They could get it done if they really wanted to, but it's pretty obvious where "donations" go. Between that and buying controlling interests in alternative fuels- yeah, i am a little pissed. ethanol wasn't the greatest idea, but hell, we are a FAST FOOD NATION and you'd think we would be able to produce large quantities of affordable biodiesel.

[Markadeck]

Originally Posted by aklim

You people and your mimicking of the media. I have seen and heard that stupid phrase "record profit" go around to the point it is a cracked and broken record. People, it is 10% give or take 2%.

Somebody explain it to me but 10% isn't really much to squeak about. they spent 360 billion to make that 40 billion of "record profit" that you people are getting wound up about.

Thank you too!! You're getting my commone sense reps also. It just amazes me that the lemmings that watch the mainstream media can't absorb this simple little fact. Those profits go to a lot of little shareholders. Not into a lot of fat cat pockets.

[rbaker6336]

Originally Posted by empiretc

we are a FAST FOOD NATION and you'd think we would be able to produce large quantities of affordable biodiesel.

this is something I have offen thought of and even a local county done a study on how many thousands of gallons of cooking oil was used in their county
they were going to build a refinery and collect the oil and use it in county vehicles
even with building a brizialion dollar refinery which probly which should have cost half and using a fleet of county monkeys to run it would have been a huge savings on fuel running 50% Bio
But it got voted down,some commissioner will probly pick up on it for his personal gain
we have mandatory recycling why not cooking oil from restaraunts also

[aklim]

Originally Posted by rbaker6336

this is something I have offen thought of and even a local county done a study on how many thousands of gallons of cooking oil was used in their county
they were going to build a refinery and collect the oil and use it in county vehicles
even with building a brizialion dollar refinery which probly which should have cost half and using a fleet of county monkeys to run it would have been a huge savings on fuel running 50% Bio
But it got voted down,some commissioner will probly pick up on it for his personal gain
we have mandatory recycling why not cooking oil from restaraunts also

I think it is an issue of NIMBY. We all want nuclear power as long as the waste isn't dumped in our back yard. Why do you think that voters in NV were promised that the Yucca Mountains wasn't going to be a permanent dipository for nuclear waste? Where was Kerry going to put it? On the moon? He didn't say. Why? Because it would have cost him votes in that state.

[hanklin]

Rick (miller feed)
wrote
"My workers are contract labor, so I can keep from paying all the employee taxes. They have to pay their own taxes if they file"
Exactly,Between rising fuel costs and payroll taxes,workers comp, food etc,how the heck am I or anyone else supposerd to make it. Economy sucks so there is little work but everything else has no limit. At least the wife has health care at work so that saves a little
If everyone votes for me for President I`ll fixeverything

Hanklin

[Markadeck]

Originally Posted by hanklin

Rick (miller feed)
wrote
"My workers are contract labor, so I can keep from paying all the employee taxes. They have to pay their own taxes if they file"
Exactly,Between rising fuel costs and payroll taxes,workers comp, food etc,how the heck am I or anyone else supposerd to make it. Economy sucks so there is little work but everything else has no limit. At least the wife has health care at work so that saves a little
If everyone votes for me for President I`ll fixeverything

Hanklin

Me as President???? Wow. we don't even want to go there. What does sand do when it gets real hot?

[powerstrokin007]

Something Alaska is thinking about,

Palin energy plan: Grants to utilities and energy debit cards.
Posted by Alaska_Politics

Posted: May 15, 2008 - 1:08 pm

Here's the press release from the governor's office describing her energy-assistance plan. Download more details of how the proposal would work here.

Governor Unveils Plan to Return Surplus to Resource Owners

Conservation and long-term solutions remain key focus

May 15, 2008, Anchorage, Alaska – Governor Sarah Palin today unveiled a short-term energy plan to address the skyrocketing costs of energy in Alaska. The package includes two parts – returning surplus funds through a grant to all electric utilities to reduce ratepayer bills and an Energy Debit Card for the next 12 months.

“Alaskans are feeling the pinch of high energy costs,” Governor Palin said. “The state treasury is swelling, while family checkbooks are evaporating. The right thing to do is to return surplus monies to the resource owners through energy relief. Instead of going to Washington, D.C. for relief, Alaskans should be independent enough to take care of this energy problem ourselves.”

Since coming into office, the Palin Administration has been focused on long-term solutions to Alaska’s energy crunch. In some of Alaska’s communities, consumers are faced with the nation’s highest energy costs. In 2007, a comprehensive energy supply inventory was initiated to identify alternatives to high-cost energy supplies.

Earlier this spring, Steve Haagenson was appointed as the State’s Energy Coordinator. In his capacity as the Executive Director of the Alaska Energy Authority, he is developing a statewide plan to reduce costs, promote conservation and secure long-term supply solutions for each part of the state. Results of that work are expected by year-end 2008.

“For instance, in Bush Alaska, the best solutions to high diesel prices are to use less and find alternatives,” Governor Palin said. “We cannot lose sight of the need for these long-term fixes, but as crude oil prices continue to set daily records, Alaska’s families, communities and businesses cannot afford to wait.”

Returning surplus funds through grants to electric utilities will result in a 60 percent reduction for all ratepayers. The benefit will flow to homeowners, renters, schools, governments and businesses. A review by the Department of Law has indicated that there should be no federal income tax consequence since the grants act to offset the revenue collected by the utilities themselves.

In addition, there will be conservation incentives for the utilities. For every 1 percent reduction in 2008 kilowatt hour sales from 2007 sales, the state will make a year-end contribution for capital energy projects to the utility.

The Energy Debit Card will go out to every qualifying Permanent Fund Dividend applicant. The benefit will be $100 per month per PFD recipient. The amount allocated for children’s benefits will accrue to the card of the sponsor on their PFD application. Money not used on the card one month will carry over to the next month. It is expected that the amount available to individuals through the card will be considered income by the IRS.

The temporary Energy Debit Card can be used for purchases from Alaska energy vendors, such as heating oil distributors, natural gas utilities, electric utilities, gas stations and other retail fueling stations.

The value of this plan is approximately $1.2 billion. The grant to electric utilities is expected to be $475 million, while the Energy Debit Card totals are forecast to be $729 million. The Governor has proposed this energy relief plan for one year.

[empiretc]

Only real waste from BIO is glycerin and that can be used to make a lot of soap. Seriously, though, what do they do with all the waste oil that i collected now? Companies that charge a fee to pick it up from restaurants have to pay to dispose of it. Where does it go from there?

[aklim]

Originally Posted by empiretc

Only real waste from BIO is glycerin and that can be used to make a lot of soap. Seriously, though, what do they do with all the waste oil that i collected now? Companies that charge a fee to pick it up from restaurants have to pay to dispose of it. Where does it go from there?

Some places take it to make biodiesel

[empiretc]

Originally Posted by aklim

Some places take it to make biodiesel

EXACTLY- some. And they get their % for doing so. So many people eat out 7 days/week there is so much WVO going elsewhere. What then????

[RubberDuck]

Originally Posted by Markadeck

Me as President???? What does sand do when it gets real hot?

It turns to glass or metal, right? Either way, it gets shiney. So nuke the dunes, make them reflective, bounce the light off a satalite mirror and use the energy here...Problem solved

Just kidding, you guys are waaaay outta my league on this one. But it's an interesting read.