I never said the dodge or chevy trucks break any less. I was just pointing out that these trucks are way more complicated than they need to be. Just look and see how hard it is to change normal wear items like alternator, water pump, etc, compared to cars just 15 years ago. You are right, it is people just like you and I behind that show room working on vehicles, but for some reason I don't think many of us have a lift in our garage to take off our cab. Nor the other specialty tools to actually figure out what is wrong with the vehicle. Lets not forget the cost involved in fixing them. Sure many people may have the know how to do it, but simply can't because they dont have the required equipment. Now they have to fork out all kinds of extra money to fix something they could on their own in many other vehicles. I am just saying there is nothing wrong with keeping things simple and functional, do we really need a computer to run the tail lights on a van (my sisters vehicle)?
you can bet that the manufacturer are not doing this cause its FUN. They have 1,000s of mandated requirements to meet, and you can bet they struggle with a lot of them right up to release day (and beyond, with the different build groups)..
Yes, there are impacts to the customers.. many of the same advantages that computer analysis give are also painful in the extreme cases (low percentage).
but they were bad before too in comparison (low percentage)..
just as an example, increase the steel strength for safety and reduce weight for fuel economy..
keep the profile low for fuel economy, and make the engine bay unobstructed for service.
add turbo for more power from less engine, and make the engine bay unobstructed for service.
tow/haul on our trucks is fabulous, but computer driven.. not as easy to debug as foot on the brake.. but I like it better.
alternator on a 6.0 takes less then 15min to r/i. so bad example. all you need is a volt meter to diag it. who lifts cabs. this is not needed on a 6.0 or a 6.4. If you have doubts ill put up a pick of a 6.4 thats in for oil in coolant and coolant in oil. Its the most gravy 25 hour job. So far as special tools there really arent many needed.... a code reader and a dvom is 90 percent of what you need.
As for the cost of repairs well when you bought it did you not notice the 7k add for the engine? I have yet to see any diesel that was cheep to own.
I will say so far as what is the easist thing to work on I would rather a 6.4 in my stall then a 7.3 anyday of the week. call me strange if you will but I hate having to do all the B.S. on a 7.3. They are outdated in every way possible. they were good and still are great engines, however the consumer has spoken and requested more power, better ride quality, a transmission that you can not feel shifting and you the consumer has gotten just that. It came at a cost thats all, but then what in life is free.
Also these truck are not complicated all. Thats just an opinion based on an unsubstantiated opinion.
and no I wan not around durring the 1950's or even the 60's for that matter, but I have worked on those too. Cars from the 50's 60 scare me to death Im still tring to understand how you can make an entire wiring harness for a car and only have 12 wires in the hole harness and have everything in the car work..... that is just boggles my mind
... Im still tring to understand how you can make an entire wiring harness for a car and only have 12 wires in the hole harness and have everything in the car work..... that is just boggles my mind
I want to say to Marshall99f150. . Thank you. My uncle is a mechanic too, usually tranny work, but his first F150, so I will pass that info on to him, I'm sure he'll love to hear that. again thanks for taking you time to respond. Sabrina
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