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Old 05-14-2008, 09:52 PM
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No he's replacing the whole high pressure fuel pump, because its leaking fuel into the crankcase. He's thinking factory defeact, because they like 1 or 2 apart on the vin #, and all from the same company.
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better get used to that picture, due to the tight confines under the hood, as im sure you have all seen personally.
one of the techs i work with on average pulls 1 cab a week, he did an experiment a while back, and was able to pull the cab off to remove the turbo's, faster than removing the turbos with cab on. we have had to replace probably 1/2 dozen turbos in last 2 months (not sure if its a sign of things to come), and had to replace 3 complete engines in last 2 weeks. it seems ford builds a bunch of trucks, they sit in storage for a few months, then get delivered to dealers where they sit for a few more months, allowing moisture to get in to upper engine and corrode the valve stems. when you go out to start engine (brand new, zero miles) the vavle will either stick and bend pushrod, or valve will hang open and piston will smash it. the engine is still new enough that a short block or long block is not yet available, you must purchase complete engine which is almost 15,000 USD.
since then ford has issued a bulletin to all dealerships saying to start all vehicles once a month and let them warm up to full operating temperature, which as most of you know, with a diesel thats a long time.
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OMG!! Cab off !!!!!!!!!!

I have a 1999 F-150. In about a week it will look something like the truck in the photo. It blew out a spark plug and has a cracked head. I was told by Ford that repair cost would begin at $3700.00, and several auto mechanic shops entered my VIN and gave me an estimated 31+ hours to repair.
$2200 is the cost for parts(not marked up)
The rest is labor... removing my cab is a lot of that cost. OUCH!!
I have been wondering what it looks like with the cab off. Thanks for sharing your pic!!! but......I love my fricken truck
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:42 PM
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you do not need to pull the cab to do cylinder heads on a 99 f150. (I am a diesel tech and I too have a 99 f150) I just replaced both heads on my own truck, 12 hours it took me. As to the people who question how long it takes to pull a 6.4 cab... My quickest time was 26 minutes. They give you about 6 hrs or so to do it (on and off).
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Old 11-01-2009, 10:51 AM
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labor time is as such 5.9 for standard and super cabs. 6.1 for cc.

Its funny I have done somany turbos and pump with out pulling the cab it faster for me. I can get the engine on the ground in 6.0 hours and thats with out lifting the cab.
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labor time is as such 5.9 for standard and super cabs. 6.1 for cc.
Before I bought my '09 PS CC I asked the tech how long it would actually take them to lift the cab, if required. He indicated his techs could do it in about 30 minutes. Even if you multiply that time by 2, it's still only an hour. Guess "labor time" includes lunch...
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I would question the 30 minute remark. You have to drain fluid, recover the AC, unplug electric connections, then start unbolting the cab from the frame.
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So does anyone have experience with the actual time to lift the cab? Perhaps the 6 hours includes re install, that would make sense?
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So does anyone have experience with the actual time to lift the cab? Perhaps the 6 hours includes re install, that would make sense?
eh? they said above, they have lifted the cab off the frame in 30 minutes.

and they said the shop book time is 6 hours, remove and install .

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Old 11-01-2009, 06:34 PM
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i wanna see the cab off in 30 min, imo not gonna happen.

cab on I can do a hpp in 7 hours.
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My dad is a certified ford diesel tech, and has done a few cab off repairs and said his fastest was 3 hours total. Like maximum said thats with all the other stuff, if it was just pulling the cab and nothing else it would take under an hour.
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I think it is ridiculous, these trucks are so freaking complicated now. Ford and all the crap they put on these trucks is just stupid, in my opinion. I know quite a few people who wont buy a ford because of the fact they are so crammed in there with so much extra crap. Its kinda sad actually, it kills back yard mechanic who are just trying to save a buck working on his own truck. In this day and age, ford should have the tech to make these things much much simpler and still perform well. I also think it is ridiculous the mandates they have to abide by too (thanks to our ever power hungry government). Think of all the pollutants being created just to make all the extra stuff on new vehicles. What ever happened to the KISS idea. Think of how much cheaper the trucks would be with out all the extra crap, and how much more reliable (less things to go wrong).
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:36 PM
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its funny that people finf these trucks hard to work on. there really very simple. It not Fords or any other persons fault that some people dont have an aptatude for such things.
If you think that the isb or duramax is any different, breaks less, has less issues then you are mistaken.
Each and every car dealer that sales cars has a building behind the showroom floor. You know whats in that building? Its a guy just like me there to fix broke stuff.
As far as reliable just an fyi to educate those that chose to bad mouth what they fail to understand Ford has spent less money on repairs on 06/07 PSD engines then they did on the 2002/2003 7.3L PSD.
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I think it is ridiculous, these trucks are so freaking complicated now. Ford and all the crap they put on these trucks is just stupid, in my opinion. I know quite a few people who wont buy a ford because of the fact they are so crammed in there with so much extra crap. Its kinda sad actually, it kills back yard mechanic who are just trying to save a buck working on his own truck. In this day and age, ford should have the tech to make these things much much simpler and still perform well. I also think it is ridiculous the mandates they have to abide by too (thanks to our ever power hungry government). Think of all the pollutants being created just to make all the extra stuff on new vehicles. What ever happened to the KISS idea. Think of how much cheaper the trucks would be with out all the extra crap, and how much more reliable (less things to go wrong).
I'm assuming that you are too young to remember the 50's and 60's when you couldn't see the end of your block for the brown haze hovering in the air. Like it or not the so called crap and legislature has helped. The diesel industry in now going thru the same growing pains the gassers went thru in the late 70's and 80's. I can see the end of my block now and the eyes are a lot older.
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I never said the dodge or chevy trucks break any less. I was just pointing out that these trucks are way more complicated than they need to be. Just look and see how hard it is to change normal wear items like alternator, water pump, etc, compared to cars just 15 years ago. You are right, it is people just like you and I behind that show room working on vehicles, but for some reason I don't think many of us have a lift in our garage to take off our cab. Nor the other specialty tools to actually figure out what is wrong with the vehicle. Lets not forget the cost involved in fixing them. Sure many people may have the know how to do it, but simply can't because they dont have the required equipment. Now they have to fork out all kinds of extra money to fix something they could on their own in many other vehicles. I am just saying there is nothing wrong with keeping things simple and functional, do we really need a computer to run the tail lights on a van (my sisters vehicle)?
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