LOTTA FUN - another thought - - on top of that 4bbl manifold, put a "plastic" carb spacer. That will insulate the carb from some heat and give you almost the same effect as a high-rise manifold w/o the $$. ( $20 to $30 w/ gaskets )
I'm converting my 360 to 4bbl also, but have a question about the EGR/vacuum set up. Mine does not have power brakes so is there really any harm in doing away with the EGR, and do I have any use for any other vacuum other than the advance?
EGR is an emissions thing and stands for Exhaust Gas Recirculating and is to lower Nox numbers. Has nothing to do with vacuum to the power brakes. If you have no emissions testing, yeah remove it or block it.
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Well, I kinda worded that wrong, but, we have no state inspection at all. What I really meant is can I get rid of all the vacuum hoses except for the dist. What about the trans. does it use a vacuum line and where does it connect?
Why do people get rid of the EGR? It costs very little power, improves driveability, and allows you to run junk gas with no problems since it cools the combustion chamber, preventing detonation.
I just finished putting an S code intake on my 360, and yeah, it's heavy but it's actually lighter than the 2BBL intake. It's still good for a hernia, which is really fun when you're hunched over under the hood, trying to fish the intake back under the throttle linkage that insists on falling down, and getting the thermostat bypass hose to connect, without messing up the nice lines of RTV for the end seals.
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Why do people get rid of the EGR? It costs very little power, improves driveability, and allows you to run junk gas with no problems since it cools the combustion chamber, preventing detonation.
I just finished putting an S code intake on my 360, and yeah, it's heavy but it's actually lighter than the 2BBL intake. It's still good for a hernia, which is really fun when you're hunched over under the hood, trying to fish the intake back under the throttle linkage that insists on falling down, and getting the thermostat bypass hose to connect, without messing up the nice lines of RTV for the end seals.
They get rid of the EGR because it is government mandated and it cost you gas mileage.
As to installing the intake, just pull the hood for christ sake, then you have all the room in the world to stand over the engine and lower the intake easily into place. Has everyone turned into whimps? I used to do my 428CJ iron manifold with the hood on.
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They get rid of the EGR because it is government mandated and it cost you gas mileage.
As to installing the intake, just pull the hood for christ sake, then you have all the room in the world to stand over the engine and lower the intake easily into place. Has everyone turned into whimps? I used to do my 428CJ iron manifold with the hood on.
LOL i take the hood off cause I cant seem to recall it's on and catch an eye/brow in the latch or god knows what. But yeah it does help with the ease factor ahaha
LOL i take the hood off cause I cant seem to recall it's on and catch an eye/brow in the latch or god knows what. But yeah it does help with the ease factor ahaha
Yeah, there is always that too. I seem to dead center the top of my head if I'm doing anything major under there.
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Since I have the radiator and the front of the motor off, I'll just stand between the grille and the block and set (LOL) it on, at least that's how the 2bbl came off. As far as why pull the EGR, I'm not really sure except I don't have all the crap, such as the spacer that goes under the carb tht the valve bolts to for a 4bbl, so didn't know if it was imperitive to look for one, or would run just as good without.
Ford_Six, what difference can you tell in your 360 with the 4 vs the 2?
I'm going from 2 to 4 bbl, and Pertronix ignition w/high output coil, hope to see some improvement in performance. Don't know?
Haven't seen any yet, I haven't pulled it out of the driveway.
It does idle a lot more smoothly now though-
I guess I'll have to do my own test on fuel mileage when I retrofit my truck to have an EGR on it. I'm sick of having to fill up with premium to tow.
I see no problem with properly maintained emissions devices, unless they are something like an air pump, computer controlled carburetor system, etc.
Pulling an EGR because it's some witchcraft government mandated thing is like pulling an oxygen sensor because you don't want the computer to see what's going on.
Nothing good would come of it in and of itself.
As far as the hood, I was working in that rain last week. I didn't want to leave the engine wide open.
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Haven't seen any yet, I haven't pulled it out of the driveway.
I'm sick of having to fill up with premium to tow.
I see no problem with properly maintained emissions devices, unless they are something like an air pump, computer controlled carburetor system, etc.
Pulling an EGR because it's some witchcraft government mandated thing is like pulling an oxygen sensor because you don't want the computer to see what's going on.
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I could care less about it being gov. mandated and would probably prefer to keep it as stock as possible, and really for no good reason I guess.
I don't know what your elevation is there but that could be one difference in the performance towing I would think. We are at about 250 above sea level. Purely a guess, and never been to Wa. so don't know.
I'm at about the same elevation at my house, and between about 40' and 350' heading to work. 90% of my towing takes me over a 3000' mountain pass, except for scrap runs.
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"If you give people nothingness, they can ponder what can be achieved from that nothingness."
Haven't seen any yet, I haven't pulled it out of the driveway.
It does idle a lot more smoothly now though-
I guess I'll have to do my own test on fuel mileage when I retrofit my truck to have an EGR on it. I'm sick of having to fill up with premium to tow.
I see no problem with properly maintained emissions devices, unless they are something like an air pump, computer controlled carburetor system, etc.
Pulling an EGR because it's some witchcraft government mandated thing is like pulling an oxygen sensor because you don't want the computer to see what's going on.
Nothing good would come of it in and of itself.
As far as the hood, I was working in that rain last week. I didn't want to leave the engine wide open.
Your analogy is as appropiate as your logic.
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