HHO Generator

jhess · #1 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 05:29 AM

This is a continuation from titan tank thread. As for the HHO generator it seems a first I'm 3-4 miles increase and that will get better with time. I still have hook-up the air pump. The air pump will increase production of the H2 at low load demaned on the engine. It will take time for this new technolology to be more know but, it looks good. If you are looking for MPG like me than this seems to be one of the ways to help with the problem.
I am also running the SCT livewire and is showing a increase also. Any thing that is going to stop that regen process is $ in my pocket. I'm try answer some questions or refer you to someone that does know. I'll also be reporting on my progress.

Momorris · #2 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 10:43 AM

How hard was the HHO generator install? How much were all the parts? I am interested in this.

Do you have any pics?

Demolition · #3 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 12:40 PM

Just read about this on the MagDrive site. MagDrive Fuel From H2O - HHO Generators

Did you have this installed or did you do it yourself. Warranty at MagDrive is dependent on authorized install. Says Price for a "Double Brick" is $599 is that about the price you paid? And what the heck is a double brick vs a single brick?
This is interesting due to it being hydrogen technology combined with fossil fuel. Was not aware that you could run both together. I am very interested due to the claim of 35-45% MPG increase. Please keep us updated with pros and cons...

ALEXVB22 · #4 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 01:05 PM

I have a 6.0 and I'm interested to.. I have been tring to build one of these (that puts out A LOT of HHO gas) for a while now.. Just Really afraid to put it on the truck. Any problem with it yet? jhess... Pics?

Alex

jhess · #5 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 01:39 PM

I chose to put it on the truck myself they give you good instructions on how put this all together. I bought a double brick which is just two brick together, it gives you more production of H2. I'm now think of tring to make one of thees to increase H2 production even more. As for it being burnt with diesel fuel the engine don't care how it meets its demand in the combustion stroke, Liquid v. Gas both are flamable.
They claim after the combustion O2 & H2 condense back to water and then flash off to steam absorbing the heat in the cylinder giving you a cooler EGT. I spent $900 for a double brick

ALEXVB22 · #6 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 02:02 PM

Could you post some pics?

If you do a search on Bob Boyce's 101 HHO generation cell design you can find many many plans on how to make it.

It's said w/ his design you can get out about 60LPM of gas generation... That's a heck of a lot more then I have been able to get with some of these sites DIY designs...

I got to about 4-5 lpm with a set of basic 304 SS pipes, weld-rod, a bucket, and a tube to run the HHO gas to a Bottle upside down in a bucket ful of water...

Any clue to as how much HHO gas you generating w/ that set up?

I'm very per-plexed to see that its actually working... Do you have guages that can verifiy that your actually lowering your EGT's?

My Biggest concern was getting past the EFIE system (but I dont know too much about diesels... learning though) Originally, I thought that if and when you added HHO gas to the intake the ECU reads it as too much oxygen and the Computer would through more fuel at it to get the air/fuel ratios right again... Thus eliminating the advantage of HHO...

- But after asking in another thread I was told that Diesel don't run on a set Air/ Fuel ratio and that the ratios are rather "all over the charts". I don't fully understand this, Could you explain?

Because if this is true, then no matter how much HHO we through at it, it should work... And timing should not matter when its used as a supplement considering it won't ignite until the diesel has because it has a much higher flash point.

Are any electronic devices used to trick the PC of the truck?

Alex

Momorris · #7 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 03:29 PM

Alex, check out the magdrive link in demolitions post. It is very informative on this works.

Also, air/fuel ratios dont matter on diesels. That is why we dont have throttle bodies. From what I understand, boost and power are regulated strictly by fuel and timing. According to that website, todays computers can handle all the calculations of the HHO system.

kimminau2 · #8 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 04:10 PM

Please keep us posted on how it works out, it is interesting if it works.

kawtiper · #9 (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jhess

I chose to put it on the truck myself they give you good instructions on how put this all together. I bought a double brick which is just two brick together, it gives you more production of H2. I'm now think of tring to make one of thees to increase H2 production even more. As for it being burnt with diesel fuel the engine don't care how it meets its demand in the combustion stroke, Liquid v. Gas both are flamable.
They claim after the combustion O2 & H2 condense back to water and then flash off to steam absorbing the heat in the cylinder giving you a cooler EGT. I spent $900 for a double brick

so did you get the Series 12a Micro-processor Dual Brick HHO gen
this is so exciting I think I just wet my self

jhess · #10 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008, 05:34 AM

Yea, that the one I got (12a with the air pump) Jim, at Megdrive claims the air pump will help with production on city driving also. That will increase you MPG total.

bookem15 · #11 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008, 01:59 PM

nothing from me just subscribing to thread. This does sound very interesting.

Momorris · #12 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jhess

Yea, that the one I got (12a with the air pump) Jim, at Megdrive claims the air pump will help with production on city driving also. That will increase you MPG total.

Is yours the model with the microprocessor? What engine are you running, 6.4 I assume. Can we get some pictures soon, please.

Thanks, I think you have a lot of FTE'ers intrigued, I know I am.

jhess · #13 (**permalink**) 05-10-2008, 03:24 PM

Yes, I am using on a 6.4 and I have the one with a microprocessor.
I had some a work today and cut some stainless steel to make a 3 1/2sq/ft total generator to add to my system. When I get all done I'll to slow down enoght to take some pics, right now I only have time to get on the computer at work. I'm a dummy, LOL I got all the ideas from searchs on You Tube and watching the videos of other people. Thats how I learned about waste oil converstion.

horstman1970 · #14 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 08:57 PM

People...another name for an on-board closed loop HHO generator is a "dynamic brake". One that, if activiated, causes your car to stop in much less than its normal coasting distance.

The HHO generator and all it's internet hype is nothing more and an reincrapnation of "Brown's gas"

On-board electrolysis to generate H2 from water will NEVER improve fuel efficiency...its not possible now nor will it ever be...can't work....won't work....no conspiriacy...just the facts

versitek · #15 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by horstman1970

People...another name for an on-board closed loop HHO generator is a "dynamic brake". One that, if activiated, causes your car to stop in much less than its normal coasting distance.

The HHO generator and all it's internet hype is nothing more and an reincrapnation of "Brown's gas"

On-board electrolysis to generate H2 from water will NEVER improve fuel efficiency...its not possible now nor will it ever be...can't work....won't work....no conspiriacy...just the facts

Please explain why this will never work and how does it differ form lets say propane or any other gas? Thanks for any info.