I can believe that. But being one that likes to drive my truck like so many of us here at FTE there is only so far I will go with my trucks. I can see restoring older ford trucks, but newer ones I would have a hard time doing.
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Cliff
President,Boy you ain't right club#1
I can believe that. But being one that likes to drive my truck like so many of us here at FTE there is only so far I will go with my trucks. I can see restoring older ford trucks, but newer ones I would have a hard time doing.
Its all relative to income. If I made $500K/year I'd have no problem buying a $100K new truck! (In my dreams! lol)
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Ken Payne
Gone Fishing...
LACK OF PLANNING ON YOUR PART DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AN EMERGENCY ON MY PART.
2006 Roush F150 Project: Roush Supercharger, Troyer & My Tuning, 9lb pulley, Level 10 Trans, E-Fans, Oil Separator, Brandmotion GPS, BlueConnect Hands-Free Phone & iPod Direct Connect, Black Headlights & Taillights, Retrax Retractable Tonneau & more.
2004 F250 King Ranch Crewcab 4x4 6.0L PSD project: DP-Tuner Tuning and MBRP Stainless Dual Exhaust.
2000 Ranger Supercab XLT 3.0 V6 project: Bright Box, Mac Intake, Tonneau, my tuning.
RIP: 1967 & 1975 F100, looking for a 66 F100
I would rather put $50k in a classic, it would be way nicer than a new one. In fact that is my theory on payments. I don't make payments, I make improvements. Could spend the same money each month and get way more bang for your buck. Why give the bank your dough when you could invest it in your rig. When the new truck is payed off it has lost most of it's value, the old one is fixed up after the same amount of time and has gained value. But if you are into your car hobby in a manner that has to make fiscal sense then your probably right, you should buy new. Some people aren't able to drive short distances to work. Though my '69 had all rebuilt running gear in 2000 and I have probably put 50,000+ on it since then. It has had some issues, but nothing major. Much cheaper than a computer or a sensor that freaks out.
I do it because I enjoy it and love old equipment. I love the sounds and smells and vibrations and so on. I've been driving my '69 for 14 years. I have a '66 Ranchero that has been a project for over 19 years.
One thing I have found out about these old trucks.....they are NEVER finished. A perpetual project! Keeps us out of trouble but not out of debt! Pay as you go. That's why I have my old truck. I have learned a lot about mechanics and 67-79 Ford trucks. Which parts interchange, which DON'T! You don't learn much when all you do is make a monthly payment!
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Ignorance makes you start over!
IF IT IS MADE IN CHINA, YOU DON'T NEED IT!
Torque it down till it breaks off, then back it off 1/4 turn.
I couldnt agree more Scottfreeman! My son has a 93 chevy lumina that had a start stall issue I have been all over that car looking for vac leaks, replaced fuel filter, many sensors, fuel pressure test ect. all I could do without buying expensive test equipment. took it the local mechanic said it was the computer wanted 400.00 to fix. Towed the car home spent 140.00 and 30 min replaceing the computer and whala no change paid 35.00 for the diagnosis that was not correct. went back and he said all we can do is start over It still sets behind my pole barn will prob drag it back up there and hope he cuts me a deal for diagnosis that was wrong. I can not fix this car on my own and that makes me crazy. I have always repaired and maintained my own cars and trucks.
I just threw up a little bit in my mouth
Thanks for telling that horrible story
you should be ashamed of yourself
I going to have to sleep with the lights on now
I second you.
I was off the computer due to moving for 2 days and I have to come back and read a story like that...I got all choked up and misty eyed.
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Ben
I was going to mention the story Scott already told, but there's more: no matter what you like (ford, chevy, dodge-car or truck) it is hard to see rust free vehicles going for scrap. Having grown up in the rustbelt, it is hard to watch when you know someone in Ohio or New York would pay through the nose for it.
Just because someone is making a payment doesn't mean they aren't doing things with it or learning a lot. Nor should I assume that because its newer they are making payments or that its older they aren't (I've seen plenty of older trucks at the "Buy Here, Pay Here, No Credit Check" places). With my 2004 F250 I started projects on it the first week I had it. With my 2006 Roush its been an on-going project for 2 years and right now I' working on getting it in the 12 second range. Old or new they can be projects... cruise over to the diesel and newer gasser sections and you'll find plenty of people who modify their trucks. With the 67 F100 it was a lot of fun, and I wish it hadn't been destroyed the way it was. I put a lot of time into it and was one of the first people on the Internet to document disk brake conversions.
I know from experience that the older trucks can be plenty expensive to keep them nice. Ever try to buy a nice replacement OEM bumper? Or a nice tailgate? Very hard to do. Or locate a fan shroud? Next to impossible with 67-72. Or upgrade a 65-72 to disk brakes... the parts are easy enough to find, and cheap, but it requires a good chunk of time and time is money.
Far too often you'll see hobbyists dogging other hobbyists, assuming (falsely) that because someone drives something different, newer, older, etc., that they somehow aren't in the same league. You know what? That doesn't help any of us. If we want the art and love of being automotive hobbyists to stick around we ought encourage people to have fun with their vehicles, no matter what the year is. Ask the some of the guys with the Lightnings what they do with them and you'll see being a hobbyist is just a big a deal with them as it is with 73-79 owners. The sad thing is I hear more folks with older trucks dogging the newer owners than visa-versa. I wish it wasn't that way.
If someone wants to buy a new truck, slam it to the weeds, do some trick body work, etc., doesn't matter if its my style or not. Go for it! Have fun. Likewise, the same with old iron as well! Lift it, lower it, bag it, French it.... have a blast! You see, this site isn't about old iron, new iron, diesel, gas, compact trucks, full size trucks.... its about Ford trucks. Same goes with putting a Chevy engine in it... I don't like it and would never do it myself, but hey... its their money not mine!
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Ken Payne
Gone Fishing...
LACK OF PLANNING ON YOUR PART DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AN EMERGENCY ON MY PART.
2006 Roush F150 Project: Roush Supercharger, Troyer & My Tuning, 9lb pulley, Level 10 Trans, E-Fans, Oil Separator, Brandmotion GPS, BlueConnect Hands-Free Phone & iPod Direct Connect, Black Headlights & Taillights, Retrax Retractable Tonneau & more.
2004 F250 King Ranch Crewcab 4x4 6.0L PSD project: DP-Tuner Tuning and MBRP Stainless Dual Exhaust.
2000 Ranger Supercab XLT 3.0 V6 project: Bright Box, Mac Intake, Tonneau, my tuning.
RIP: 1967 & 1975 F100, looking for a 66 F100
Wow FTE Ken! good point we are all brothers in this. To each his own! there all Ford trucks. I just go to the dent sides forum because that is what I have and enjoy working on. Have been to the ranger fourm to ask a question about putting 17" rims on a 98 2 wheel drive I am working on with 0 replies maybe a stupid question but had hoped some one could tell me. Never had a question not replied to on the dent side forum. I will say that hands down there is no better fourm than FTE on any ford truck.