just wondering if anyone has posted about a hybrid f150. be cool. dont see why they dont consider it. the truck has plenty of room to make it happen. any thoughts on this?
I'm gonna toss in my two cents here. I think Ford won't do it because I don't know how actively they've been pursuing a technology that can really power the F150. Either way, I don't think the real world gains would be worth the extra money for the cost of the hybrid. Not to mention they'd have to put a lot of technology into it to make it work flawlessly. Also, it'll reduce payload capacity a bit.
I think Ford should pursue a diesel for sure. It may or may not be worth the extra money unless you drive a lot of miles and year and plan on keeping it for a long time though.
If I had to buy a new truck - it'd be a diesel F150 over a gas engine. I think they could see about 20/23 with a small diesel in there.
-rockstate
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...Not to mention they'd have to put a lot of technology into it to make it work flawlessly. Also, it'll reduce payload capacity a bit....I think Ford should pursue a diesel for sure.
Ford has pretty much already perfected the technology in the Escape hybrid. Now all they have to do is scale the Escape drivetrain up to where it could power the F150 without greatly reducing performance - including payload capacity. It could be done if the desire was there.
I agree that a diesel would be a nice addition. At a buck a gallon more than unleaded in my area though, the payback period would be long.
I don't think it would interest me, and since everyone always agrees with me I don't think it would be a good seller for Ford.
A small hybrid truck might sell. Like a hybrid Ranger. I'm just not sure the battery technology is there for a truck the size of an F150, but it's not such a stretch from the Escape to a Ranger.
I think a hybrid could be done, just sunday watched motorweek and the had a segment on the Chevy Taho hybrid, cutting to the point of the test drive the mpg for a 4wd with thier fuel management system was 20 city 20 hwy with towing of 6800lbs not sure how that compares to a standard gas vehicle with thier fuel system but motorweek reported actual driving achieved the 20 mpg as advertised also the hybrid system added 6,000 to the price of the vehicle, I get almost 17 mpg with my 5.4 4x4 screw on the hwy, I'd like to see a better improvement in mpg or less of a loss in towing if I were to consider a hybrid. Like stated previously maybe in a Ranger but not in the 150 unless the gains are improved
chevy and gmc are offering a 1500 silverdao hybrid mode 2 later this year. It is based on the Tahoe mode 2 hybrid. I don't know how effictive it will be in a truck, but it is an interesting concept. I have heard a rumor that dodge is working on a diesel hybrid for the 2500 and 3500 with "much" improved fuel milege.
I am all for the "green technology", but it also has to have a reasonable price attached to be green.
Just my humble opinion. I would also consider a diesel F150, but it would depend on the fuel miliege, and related maintenance.
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id be cautious of a hybrid in a truck, i wouldnt want to get stuck and overheat the electric motor, hopefully they have a shut off if the current drawn becomes to large and i think a diesel hybrid combo would be way to costly to ever make it justifiable
I think a hybrid could be done, just sunday watched motorweek and the had a segment on the Chevy Taho hybrid, cutting to the point of the test drive the mpg for a 4wd with thier fuel management system was 20 city 20 hwy with towing of 6800lbs not sure how that compares to a standard gas vehicle with thier fuel system but motorweek reported actual driving achieved the 20 mpg as advertised also the hybrid system added 6,000 to the price of the vehicle, I get almost 17 mpg with my 5.4 4x4 screw on the hwy, I'd like to see a better improvement in mpg or less of a loss in towing if I were to consider a hybrid. Like stated previously maybe in a Ranger but not in the 150 unless the gains are improved
$6000.00 is no small change! You'll never recoup the cost during a typical financing period. Just being green ain't good enough of a reason to add another $80.00-$100.00 per month in car payments. The technology is unproven in full size vehicles. I give kudos to ford though, they're letting GM stick thier toe in the water first. If MPG's are the most important part of truck ownership then many folks are in for a big disappointment. Your not going to get your cake and eat it too.
Tim
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I am sure GM's hybrid doesn't get anywhere near 20mpg hwy, except on the flat land of Kansas! 20mpg hwy is probably on a no-grade highway in 4cly. mode.
I think the days of everyone driving a truck and big SUV are over. The GM plant in Arlington, TX is finally starting its day shift back up (they make the Tahoe). They still don't plan to put second shift back on yet.
I have a daily driver and my old F150 if I need to haul something. The parking lot at my work is already shifting from trucks to new smaller cars!
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I am sure GM's hybrid doesn't get anywhere near 20mpg hwy, except on the flat land of Kansas! 20mpg hwy is probably on a no-grade highway in 4cly. mode.
I've seen several reports about the GM Hybrid and all were getting around 20 mpg city and highway in real world testing. One of those reporters tested it around Boston where we have nothing flat and always have traffic. I think this vehicle is the real deal.....
Peterbilt also makes the model 386 and 384 hybrid class 8 trucks. The technology is there it just needs to be put into use. I am not saying I would buy one, that would depend on how well the trucks could perform and the cost, but it could be done. Most heavy duty construction equipment is hybrid powered, has been for years, and works great. If properly equipped then fuel economy would go up and so could payloads. Just something to think about.
I've seen several reports about the GM Hybrid and all were getting around 20 mpg city and highway in real world testing. One of those reporters tested it around Boston where we have nothing flat and always have traffic. I think this vehicle is the real deal.....
One thing they did with the Hybrid was to lighten several areas of the truck to offset the additional weight of the batteries and other components. I think they could have done the weight reduction of other parts of the truck, left the conventional powertrain and increased the mileage in both city and highway driving rather than helping only the city portion.
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GM and Chrysler have been working together on a hybrid system for larger vehicles. I know dodge is going to first release a Durango with the system, then later on implement it in the RAM
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