Afraid so. Coal does the same thing. When the EPA has to decide between MPG or emissions, it s no brainer which way they will go. Although I still hope the MPG will still be of some concern to them.
the thing about the coal is that one of the largest release gasses from burning coal is sulfur dioxide.
and as with sulfur in diesel, when it comes into contact with rain you get sulfuric acid
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the thing about the coal is that one of the largest release gasses from burning coal is sulfur dioxide.
and as with sulfur in diesel, when it comes into contact with rain you get sulfuric acid
then how about less coal and more nuclear,wind,solar and hydroelectric power.then maybe we would'nt have to be so concerned about our cars.
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then how about less coal and more nuclear,wind,solar and hydroelectric power.then maybe we would'nt have to be so concerned about our cars.
i agree, but the tree huggers are askeard of having another three mile island with nuclear plants,
wind power puts those ugly windmills where someone may see them, hydroelectric will stop the fishes from getting to their spawning grounds, and solar power will make the sun less efficient.
the only way i can see for us to survive is to kill off everyone
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Well, the wind generators have been poping up all over the western oklahoma area. We have a few large wind farms south of guymon, (infact there is one wind generator out south east of guymon that is one of the largest in the world and theres only 2 of them from what i understand) And then there is a very large number of wind generators north of woodward oklahoma. They are poping up all over the place around here. I don't know much about them but I do know each one cost about a million dollars a piece and i think they are made in germany but not sure. The power output is also in the megawatts per generator but I can't remember if its like 4 or 40MW. Its still alot of power just from the wind. Out it is flat dry rolling plains with lots of wind so its one good area for them to be put up. I hear sever other places are starting to pop up windgenerators. Next time I drive by the wind farms, I will take a picture and post it just to show how many they have put up in the past few years. Atleast it is in the works!!! And besides, I like the way the windgenerators look. i don't think they are ugly and mess up the view. They look clean and efficient with very little impact on the environment.
i agree, but the tree huggers are askeard of having another three mile island with nuclear plants,
wind power puts those ugly windmills where someone may see them, hydroelectric will stop the fishes from getting to their spawning grounds, and solar power will make the sun less efficient.
the only way i can see for us to survive is to kill off everyone
maybe tom cruise and the scientologists can get the mothership to save us from ourselves.
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maybe tom cruise and the scientologists can get the mothership to save us from ourselves.
You will have to pay the membership fee first.
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Well, the wind generators have been poping up all over the western oklahoma area. We have a few large wind farms south of guymon, (infact there is one wind generator out south east of guymon that is one of the largest in the world and theres only 2 of them from what i understand) And then there is a very large number of wind generators north of woodward oklahoma. They are poping up all over the place around here. I don't know much about them but I do know each one cost about a million dollars a piece and i think they are made in germany but not sure. The power output is also in the megawatts per generator but I can't remember if its like 4 or 40MW. Its still alot of power just from the wind. Out it is flat dry rolling plains with lots of wind so its one good area for them to be put up. I hear sever other places are starting to pop up windgenerators. Next time I drive by the wind farms, I will take a picture and post it just to show how many they have put up in the past few years. Atleast it is in the works!!! And besides, I like the way the windgenerators look. i don't think they are ugly and mess up the view. They look clean and efficient with very little impact on the environment.
Our town had the chance to have turbines put up, and we blew it - big time.
As a dumb question, are they noisy? My info says that they are so aerodynamic that they are very quiet, but the myth seems to persist. It was one of the arguments used against them.
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Our town had the chance to have turbines put up, and we blew it - big time.
As a dumb question, are they noisy? My info says that they are so aerodynamic that they are very quiet, but the myth seems to persist. It was one of the arguments used against them.
na,they arent noisy,there is a farm in ohio close to me that has 5 or 6 smaller ones and i have stood right under them.i did'nt hear anything but wind.it's all of the self riotous wind bags that think we need to drive tiny little electric match box cars while they fly in private jets and ride in big hogg suv's
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maybe tom cruise and the scientologists can get the mothership to save us from ourselves.
I dont know about you guys but I dont think I can aford (or that I would want to aford) the membership to that club. And yes it dose seem like all the treehugers would like us to sacrifice so thay can still fly multibazillion dollar jets...
ya me too! im all for bio tho, ive ran it in my truck and it runs smooth and gets better milage. soo, im startn to make a little of my own at home now.
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ya me too! im all for bio tho, ive ran it in my truck and it runs smooth and gets better milage. soo, im startn to make a little of my own at home now.
do you mix it or run it strait?
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OK, take our sulfer away but lower our road tax an equivilent amount to make up for it. The tax IS outrageous now, we are expected to tighten our belts and suck-it-up but the gov't still gets their FULL cut and them some. I'm not against cleaning up the environment when there is REAL reason for doing it (sulfer/acid rain).
Biodiesel produces a better burn that petrodiesel. I remember reading a rather extensive report (year 2005) that stated the reduction in BTUs was along the lines of 10%, but that the drop in MPG was within the margin of error. Some posted slight drops other slight gains in MPG.
I would imagine with the advent of ULSD, the BTUs are possibly favoring biodiesel now.
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na,they arent noisy,there is a farm in ohio close to me that has 5 or 6 smaller ones and i have stood right under them.i did'nt hear anything but wind.it's all of the self riotous wind bags that think we need to drive tiny little electric match box cars while they fly in private jets and ride in big hogg suv's
Thanks stevilknevil, now I officially get to personally bust a steel toe on some ones arse next time they say that wind turbines are to noisy, ugly, dangerous or some other short sighted NIMBY (not in my back yard) comment. I hate matchbox EVs too, thats why mine will be an interceptor
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Biodiesel produces a better burn that petrodiesel. I remember reading a rather extensive report (year 2005) that stated the reduction in BTUs was along the lines of 10%, but that the drop in MPG was within the margin of error. Some posted slight drops other slight gains in MPG.
I would imagine with the advent of ULSD, the BTUs are possibly favoring biodiesel now.
Thanks stevilknevil, now I officially get to personally bust a steel toe on some ones arse next time they say that wind turbines are to noisy, ugly, dangerous or some other short sighted NIMBY (not in my back yard) comment. I hate matchbox EVs too, thats why mine will be an interceptor
yeah, like those in martha's vinyard or cape cod.you would think they would jump on green power.i personally think they look kinda kool.
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