I am going to go against the grain here and went with TCW3 outboard 2cycle oil on my last fillup. I have done a lot of research on this and I am very very comfortable with this choice. I have ran PS for an additive the entire life of my truck and have decided that the 2cycle will better suit my needs. Stay tuned
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2006 F250 CC SB FX4 6.0L 3.73s; DIESELSITE COOLANT FILTER; AUTOMETER Z-SERIES PYRO & TRANS TEMP; BILSTEIN HDs ALL AROUND; SWP GENERAL LEE CB; 4" MBRP NO CAT; SPARTAN TUNED; F350 BLOCKS; LINE-X; FUMOTO VALVE; P.I.E.
From a fuel perspective, I think it is helpful. What I am leary of is the effect on the oily solids that can (and do) form in the exhaust (specifically in the turbo and the EGR system).
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06 F250 CC SB ESOF FX4 Lariat 3.73LS 275/65R20
DieselSite Coolant Filter; High Idle Mod
Zoodad/Air Fury grill; Accufab Elbow; CCV filter
Fumoto; HFCM Plug; Harpooned fuel tank
JimmiJammers; Ravelco; DashDaq & britebox on deck
Line-X, CPOhighway Prod. tool box, tracrac
Fox Weatherboots; Wet Okole Seat Covers
Stanadyne Perf. & B2 for lubricity
From a fuel perspective, I think it is helpful. What I am leary of is the effect on the oily solids that can (and do) form in the exhaust (specifically in the turbo and the EGR system).
I was as well. I was more concerned with our injectors to tell you the truth. However, the 2cycle has a lower flash point then diesel. I have not seen any reports that suggest any build up is an issue from the use of the 2cycle. As far as the EGR goes, I started thinking about it and buildup is an issue anyway. I doubt very seriously that the 2cycle will hurt in that department. I have mine disabled anyway. If for whatever reason 2cycle becomes an issue I will start running the Schaeffers 2000. It is just a PITA to get.
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2006 F250 CC SB FX4 6.0L 3.73s; DIESELSITE COOLANT FILTER; AUTOMETER Z-SERIES PYRO & TRANS TEMP; BILSTEIN HDs ALL AROUND; SWP GENERAL LEE CB; 4" MBRP NO CAT; SPARTAN TUNED; F350 BLOCKS; LINE-X; FUMOTO VALVE; P.I.E.
Last edited by sbrou14 : 04-24-2008 at 01:30 PM.
Reason: Schaeffers
Subscribing, I would like to know how this turns out.
What are the chances of the oil clogging the fuel filters? How much thicker is than diesel fuel?
Just curious, I haven't done any research on this topic.
Edit: How much oil do you plan to mix per tank?
I will be mixing 1oz per gallon. There is no fuel filter clogging issues reported.
I should have said this from the get go but I will say it now. I am not a scientist; I just put two and two together from some pretty smart guys . I am not trying to talk anyone into using 2cycle. However, I am convinced that PS is full of crap. I saw what was in PS and I am just not sold. I do not want to run straight ULSD so I wanted something readily available that worked. Lubricity is the main concern with ULSD and my (our) 6.0L are designed to run LSD. I remember seeing that blind study about lubricity. The 2cycle did very well and is easily accessible (ChinaMart). So I started doing a lot of research on the stuff. So, now I am running it. I can say that my injectors are already a bit quieter and the knocking noise is down. It lubes the injectors well and it seems actually really good for our injectors. Several 6.0L guys actually run this stuff already just not many on our forum. None have had issues and many actually report all pros about the stuff.
Now, if you are really interested and want to do abit of homework....here ya go 2 Cycle Oil
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2006 F250 CC SB FX4 6.0L 3.73s; DIESELSITE COOLANT FILTER; AUTOMETER Z-SERIES PYRO & TRANS TEMP; BILSTEIN HDs ALL AROUND; SWP GENERAL LEE CB; 4" MBRP NO CAT; SPARTAN TUNED; F350 BLOCKS; LINE-X; FUMOTO VALVE; P.I.E.
Last edited by sbrou14 : 04-24-2008 at 06:18 PM.
Reason: Added link
2 cycle fuel is quite soluble in diesel so fuel filters will not be an issue. The oil mentioned by Sbrou14 is an ashless oil and theoretically will not leave a residue. I personally would like to hear someone say they have used 2 cycle oil for 30k miles and found a clean EGR valve when they pulled it. It is just too soon for me to get on the bandwagon. It may be everything claimed and more. I personally am appreciative of the folks who are trying it. The ability of a diesel engines to run with it is not a question (been done for a long time) - just limited data on diesel engines w/ EGR systems.
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06 F250 CC SB ESOF FX4 Lariat 3.73LS 275/65R20
DieselSite Coolant Filter; High Idle Mod
Zoodad/Air Fury grill; Accufab Elbow; CCV filter
Fumoto; HFCM Plug; Harpooned fuel tank
JimmiJammers; Ravelco; DashDaq & britebox on deck
Line-X, CPOhighway Prod. tool box, tracrac
Fox Weatherboots; Wet Okole Seat Covers
Stanadyne Perf. & B2 for lubricity
I have been running 2 cycle in my truck (1 qt for every 100 gals) for the last 36,000 miles no problems yet.
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Brush Guard w/4 moose lites, 2 block heaters, pad heaters on oil pan, trans pan, both batteries,
interior heater, Mobil-1 Turbo diesel oil, Motorcraft fuel treatment, fuel filters every 10,000 miles,
AstroStart auto start, 98 gal Transfer flow tank, rhino liner on the rockers, Blue heat, MBRP turbo back
duels w/ no CAT
so to make it easy, you guys are putting about 300ml oil into a full tank? 120L (30gal i think if my rough math is correct)...i'm going to keep an eye on this thread for sure.
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2004 F350 X-cab 6.0 6 speed long box
I have been running 2 cycle in my truck (1 qt for every 100 gals) for the last 36,000 miles no problems yet.
Don't ya just get curious about your EGR valve? Just a little? Next time you are bored, how about pulling the EGR valve and taking some pics for us??? Maybe we could meet half way and I could help ya (say - somewhere in Colorado or Montana)??? You can probably get a pic of it by pulling your power elbow and shining a good flashlight in the intake manifold
I believe the ratio I have seem quoted is 1:128 or 1 oz. per gallon. Seems like you are adding quite a bit less than most folks (1qt : 400qts). For a 30 gallon fill-up you would add .9375 qts at the 1:128 ratio.
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06 F250 CC SB ESOF FX4 Lariat 3.73LS 275/65R20
DieselSite Coolant Filter; High Idle Mod
Zoodad/Air Fury grill; Accufab Elbow; CCV filter
Fumoto; HFCM Plug; Harpooned fuel tank
JimmiJammers; Ravelco; DashDaq & britebox on deck
Line-X, CPOhighway Prod. tool box, tracrac
Fox Weatherboots; Wet Okole Seat Covers
Stanadyne Perf. & B2 for lubricity
I am also running 2 stroke oil the past couple tanks ,though only 12oz a tank right now.I am on my third tank of fuel and notice my injectors are much quieter and partial throttle seems less abrupt. I started to use it to help lube the ulsd, I still run a half dose of fuel treatment with the optilube for the cetane boost.
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03/04 350 Crew DRW 6 speed XLT fx4, EconoMax injectors, Autometer Fuel, Boost & EGT. AFE filter, Sct X-III with some sweet Spartan tunes, ARP studs, RR fuel system, Southbend FB8, Fluiddamper, Ali Arc hunting bumper,Light Force, Ride-Rite helpers,Ford APCM
03 Ex LTD mostly stock motor and a bunch of bolt ons on the truck.
I'm with Bismic on this one. I'm also concerned as to the impact on the EBP sensor. I've looked at most of MoparMan's threads, but he's running this in a Cummins without EGR. Long term effect on our emissions/control systems is my concern.
Also, as our trucks run much lower fuel pressures than a common rail, do we actually have a verified lubricity problem?
If you have the EGR bypassed, what's the worst thing that can happen?
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'06 F350, 6.0L. Auto Trans, King Ranch, DRW, CC, LB, MBRP Exhaust, big smile on face while driving.
'73 F100 390 with lotsa goodies
. I am not trying to talk anyone into using 2cycle. However, I am convinced that PS is full of crap. I saw what was in PS and I am just not sold. I do not want to run straight ULSD so I wanted something readily available that worked. Lubricity is the main concern with ULSD and my (our) 6.0L are designed to run LSD. I remember seeing that blind study about lubricity. The 2cycle did very well and is easily accessible (ChinaMart). So I started doing a lot of research on the stuff. So, now I am running it. I can say that my injectors are already a bit quieter and the knocking noise is down. It lubes the injectors well and it seems actually really good for our injectors. Several 6.0L guys actually run this stuff already just not many on our forum. None have had issues and many actually report all pros about the stuff. 
