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Old 09-02-2008, 09:12 AM
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Bill I just did a google search on D4VZ-6316-A part number and the funny thing is there was only 3 hits and they are all in YOUR posts, I called my local ford dealer and he says that part number doesn't exist (say may be a discontinued-(it's obsolete) or superseded (It's not) part number but shows nothing for it) and says ford doesn't give a part number EXCEPT the motorsport number for the early engines If he has the '73/79 car and/or the '73/79 truck parts catalogs, the number is listed as plain on the nose on his face. Maybe he needs his eyes fixed!

The last edition of the car parts catalog is 11/88, the last edition of the truck catalog is 10/88, and I have both, the number is listed in both.

There's not one Motorsport part number listed in either of the '73/79 parts catalogs. Motorsport parts are only listed in Motorsport parts catalogs.
I just noticed your post, so here's my answer, which is better late than never.

D4VZ6316A .. Harmonic Balancer / Replaced: D0OZ-6316-A & D2VZ-6316-A

The 1965/72 & 1973/79 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalogs say it fits all 1970/74 429's and 1970/78 460's (1979 cars didn't come with 460's).

The 1973/79 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog says it fits 1974/79 F100/350's w/460's with the D1VE-AB, AB1, AB2 block casting number.

No Ford dealer or obsolete parts seller has D4VZ6316A, or the two previous part numbers it replaced: D2VZ6316A, D0OZ6316A
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65HTgalaxie first and for most welcome to FTE.

Next Bill's info is always good but sometimes he gets a little carried away with to much info lol (no offense Bill) but to answer your question the casting numbers you posted indicate somewhere between 79 -86 for the most part. The block casting number you listed is for as Bill stated midyear 1979 and on (they used that block casting number until 97 when they stopped making the 460s). So what you have is an externally balance engine, most likely a 460 (they used the same block and heads on the industrial 429s built after 79 also but was only in medium duty trucks and industrial applications like pump motors and big gen sets)
As to availability of parts, you have a huge choice on anything you want to do with that motor from mild to wild, that block is what I prefer for strokers due to the cylinders being approx 3/16th" longer on the bottom, and even in 2 bolt configuration will handle more hp then 99% of the population needs or will even build. Case in point I am running a 528 using a D9TE block with factory 2 bolt caps at over 900hp NA.
Just let us know what you want to do and we can surely help ya out


Now I do have to correct Bill on one point, first off they are NOT balancers they are harmonic Dampeners. secondly they use the same one on both internal and external balanced engines it's the spacer behind them that is different (yes you MAY have a different part number but the actual dampener is the same and all of them are neutral balance it's the spacer that makes the external inbalance not the dampener, after market doesn't use different ones) example of this for you is ford motorsports they list M-6316-A460 for 72-97 same part number same dampener from ford for both internal and external engines.
Hi Rob,
I like your post. I have had a couple of matches with Bill over things in his catalogs also. Seems like he is just a number guy. Dont take offense Bill! You got some good stuff and you are knowledgeable. Anyway Rob, just want to post my issue here with you concerning my 1971 Ford F250 Ranger XLT Camper Special. It came with the 390 and the PO put in a 460 with a 2 barrel 429 thunderjet intake and carb. So its a mixed bag. I bought the truck about 1 month ago. Ever since I got it there has been a vibration in the engine that feels like a misfire. Well I put new plugs, points, condensor, distributor cap, rotor, coil and wires. Set the dwell to 28 gapped the plugs to .035. Set the timing to 6 BTDC. Checked the compression 140 on all 8. Starts right up and runs great with the exception of the vibration. So it became obvious to me that it is not misfiring. Pulled all the plugs after 3 weeks of daily driving and they look great. All firing nicely. Then I did some digging. My block is a D9TE-AB which is externally balanced. I do have the dampner hatchet weight spacer. Yesterday I removed the inspection cover from the sandwich plate to check the flex plate. There is no weight on the front (engine side) of flex plate as it is supposed to be. I looked up the part number and looked at the picture of the flex plate with the weight on it and all the pics that I can find show the weight welded to the front (engine side) of the flex plate. So it is obvious now that the vibration is in fact a true vibration because of the wrong flex plate that was put of by the PO. Is it possible that the weight could be on the back (tranny side) of the flex plate? I want to know your opinion on this. I could pull the starter off and look with a mirror but I really dont want to do extra work if I dont have to. Your reply is appreciated.
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Bill I just did a google search on D4VZ-6316-A part number and the funny thing is there was only 3 hits and they are all in YOUR posts, I called my local ford dealer and he says that part number doesn't exist (say may be a discontinued or superseded part number but shows nothing for it) and says ford doesn't give a part number EXCEPT the motorsport number for the early engines.
Hi Rob,
Just thought I would share a part with you from Dorman. The link below shows a dampner for a ford 460 with the weight integral to it no spacer. The part # is 594-083. As far as the term harmonic balancer, this part is just that. A dampner and balancer in one.

DormanŽ OE Solutions™ 594-083 - Harmonic Balancer | O'Reilly Auto Parts
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Hi Rob,
I like your post. I have had a couple of matches with Bill over things in his catalogs also. Seems like he is just a number guy. Dont take offense Bill! You got some good stuff and you are knowledgeable. Anyway Rob, just want to post my issue here with you concerning my 1971 Ford F250 Ranger XLT Camper Special. It came with the 390 and the PO put in a 460 with a 2 barrel 429 thunderjet intake and carb. So its a mixed bag. I bought the truck about 1 month ago. Ever since I got it there has been a vibration in the engine that feels like a misfire. Well I put new plugs, points, condensor, distributor cap, rotor, coil and wires. Set the dwell to 28 gapped the plugs to .035. Set the timing to 6 BTDC. Checked the compression 140 on all 8. Starts right up and runs great with the exception of the vibration. So it became obvious to me that it is not misfiring. Pulled all the plugs after 3 weeks of daily driving and they look great. All firing nicely. Then I did some digging. My block is a D9TE-AB which is externally balanced. I do have the dampner hatchet weight spacer. Yesterday I removed the inspection cover from the sandwich plate to check the flex plate. There is no weight on the front (engine side) of flex plate as it is supposed to be. I looked up the part number and looked at the picture of the flex plate with the weight on it and all the pics that I can find show the weight welded to the front (engine side) of the flex plate. So it is obvious now that the vibration is in fact a true vibration because of the wrong flex plate that was put of by the PO. Is it possible that the weight could be on the back (tranny side) of the flex plate? I want to know your opinion on this. I could pull the starter off and look with a mirror but I really dont want to do extra work if I dont have to. Your reply is appreciated.
I would be rather suprised if they were. But if it's an aftermarket flexplate all bets are off.

Yes that could possibly be your vibration.
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I would be rather suprised if they were. But if it's an aftermarket flexplate all bets are off.

Yes that could possibly be your vibration.
Hi Rob,
Thanks for your reply. I have been blogging with a Ford Parts guru here the last couple of weeks concerning a few issues with my Ford. He told me that there is NO WAY that they could put the weight on the tranny side because due to the thickness of the weight there is not enough space between the converter and flexplate when bolted up. I dont have mine apart yet, however looking at a pic of the TC for my application I can see what he means. Here is a link of the TC that shows the flex plate side. Pro-King FM128 - Torque Converter | O'Reilly Auto Parts

I am going to remove the starter tonight and take a look that is the only way I can see the tranny side of the flex plate. I can remove the starter and use my mirror and see. I was told however by the Ford Parts guy not to waste the effort because there isn't gonna be a weight on the tranny side. Oh well doesnt matter really gotta pull the starter anyway to slide back the tranny to change the flex plate.
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I would be rather suprised if they were. But if it's an aftermarket flexplate all bets are off.

Yes that could possibly be your vibration.
Hi Rob,
Just thought I would update you on my truck. I pulled off the flexplate and low and behold there was no weight on it at all. I purchased the correct flex plate for the externally balanced 460 and WOW what a BIG difference. The vibration is completely gone. That big block runs so smooth now. Who ever put that engine together obviously did not know what they were doing. Well anyway if you know of anyone out there needs a flexplate for an Internally balanced 460 in excellent condition let me know.
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