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Old 04-19-2008, 11:03 AM
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Help on cooling decision

Hello. I need help deciding on how to cool my sons truck we are finishing.
1973 F250 4x4, 390 rebuilt about 300 miles ago.
We put in a summit aluminum radiator with a pair of electric fans that come installed in a shroud.
Radiator: Summit SUM-380428 - Summit Aluminum Racing Radiators - summitracing.com
Fans:
Derale 16927 - Derale High Output Rad Electric Fans - summitracing.com

The temperature is fine while driving (about 180-185), but starts to heat up in traffic, it got to 230 last night. I thought this set up would be more than enough, but it has not even started to get hot here! I am leaning towards trying to put in a taller , 24 high instead of 19, one since I will need to do some modifications due to a 2” body lift.
I do not have any parts, so I would need a new radiator, shroud, and fan assembly if I go that route.
So, I would like words of wisdom. What would you all recommend? I would like to keep it as cost effective as possible, but it MUST work. Thanks in advance!
   
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Old 04-19-2008, 04:20 PM
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If the fans are set up on a thermostat, I would play with the off/on setting or try a toggle switch to kick them on. If they are already on with the key, either more fan or more radiator. Greg
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If you go back to the original setup.

D3TZ8146C .. Fan Shroud ~ Fits: 1968/76 360/390 ~ Used with standard, Xtra cooling and A/C radiators, not used with Super Cooling radiator.

Still available from Ford.

MSRP: $93.30 / ftepartsguy.com: $67.18

The largest radiator Ford supplied for this shroud was used with A/C.

Specs: Heighth: 19 3/4" / Width: 26 1/4" / 2" core thickness / 3 row.
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The Super Cooling radiator is the way to go, but both it and its fan shroud are very hard to find.

Super Cooling radiators used a different core support, so to install a S/C radiator in a truck that didn't come with one, you have to trim away some metal in your present core support for the radiator to get enough airflow.

S/C radiator specs: Heighth: 24 11/16" / Width: 26 1/4" / 2 5/8" core thickness / 4 row.
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I am going by the local Pick and Pull to see what they have. The truck has been a two-year project with my son, frame up, and I would like to stick with new/reman parts as much as possible.
The fans are set to go on at 180, and they turn on between 180-185 by the guage.
I was looking at these:

Radiator, Super Cooling

Fan Shroud, Super Cooling

I know it is a 3 row, and not as thick, but???
Find a fan at the local Pick and Pull and use a clutch?
I am pissed I wasted the $ on the aluminum and fans, we learn by doing.
Trimming, better described as hacking for me, I can do.

ND, I see you are from LA, you must know about sitting in traffic
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I am going by the local Pick and Pull to see what they have. The truck has been a two-year project with my son, frame up, and I would like to stick with new/reman parts as much as possible.
The fans are set to go on at 180, and they turn on between 180-185 by the guage.
I was looking at these:

Radiator, Super Cooling

Fan Shroud, Super Cooling

I know it is a 3 row, and not as thick, but???
Find a fan at the local Pick and Pull and use a clutch?
I am pissed I wasted the $ on the aluminum and fans, we learn by doing.
Trimming, better described as hacking for me, I can do.

ND, I see you are from LA, you must know about sitting in traffic
It's EZ to tell a S/C radiator from the others when it's still in a truck, or not.

The top tank on the S/C radiator is almost 6" wide, about 2" wider than the A/C radiator.

S/C radiators were used from 1968 thru 1979. Besides the 360/390's, the 460's used the same one: D3TZ-8005-G.

All Ford fan shrouds are marked on the upper drivers side corner. The mark is molded into the shroud.

S/C radiator shroud: MARKED: D4TA-EB / A/C radiator shroud: MARKED: D3TA-CA (this is the shroud that's still available from Ford).

Sitting in traffic: Not anymore, I'm retired.

I don't venture from the house till 10AM. and am back by 2PM, times which usually avoid the horrid traffic conditions.

btw: I'm in LA County, not the city. It doesn't matter where you live, the traffic is awful no matter where you go.

LA County: 8 million ppl have taken up residence here, and that not counting the estimated 2 MILLION illegals!

LA traffic = IMO, it's not as bad as San Francisco, and compared to Toronto, it's a piece of cake.
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best setup i found for cooling is go with a fan clutch and 8 bladed fan, find the fan in a wrecking yard, and use the electric fans as pushers, that works on my jeep and can feel the difference when i switch them on.
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