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Old 04-15-2008, 05:54 PM
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Got my Ray-Wel air cleaner lid...

...and what a piece of friggen garbage. i do wanna thank cheaperjeeper for selling me it, it was packed nicely and arrived w/o harm.

but wow, this is a total joke. it is JUST like the stock lid but made from alminium. it is the same height and the funnel is the same as the soup bowl on the stock lid. i didnt get to run it yet because i need a shorter bolt, if i even run it. i think ill just sell it on eBay.

no wonder they went out of business and no one heard of em...
   
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:41 AM
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im gunna take comparasion pics later today to show.
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:01 AM
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Hey dude if you want to send it back I'll refund everything but the shipping - just say the word...

I didn't have a stock lid to compare it to, but from looking at pictures of one it looked like it was deeper to accomodate a taller filter just like the Banks.
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:07 AM
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na its cool, ill use it. i didnt mean to offend ya. im just bummed out it aint no real different LOL.
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:11 AM
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na its cool, ill use it. i didnt mean to offend ya. im just bummed out it aint no real different LOL.
I'm not offended, I just feel bad that you're disappointed and it isn't what you wanted - or what we thought it was.

Guess it's more of a bling thing than a performance part...
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:12 AM
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the "soup bowl" isnt as big as the stocker...oh well it gives me time to make my own high rise lid now while i run the raywel.
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:20 PM
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the "soup bowl" isnt as big as the stocker....
Well, at least there's that...
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...oh well it gives me time to make my own high rise lid now while i run the raywel.
Rather than make a new lid, I think I'd find out exactly what is avaliable in terms of a taller filter and then modify the base of the air cleaner to accomodate it.

For example, if you could find a filter that is the same ID & OD, but 1" taller, cut the top 2" rim off of a spare stock aircleaner base. Then shove the bottom of that 2" rim down inside the top lip of your aircleaner base exactly 1" - to where it is sticking up 1" taller than the original rim of your aircleaner base. Use silicone sealant to seal the seam between them and pop rivet through the overlapping 1" to secure the raised rim in place. VIOLA', you have a 1" taller air cleaner that the Raywel OR the stock lid will fit perfectly!

It might take a little creativity to make it fit in the area around the snorkle. You might even have to cut a 2" strip off the top of a couple of aircleaners to piece it all together, but I think it would have some benefits to make it worth the effort too. Not only would it give you more fliter surface area, it would also raise the bottom of your soup bowl 1" higher above the intake manifold opening - so that it could still deflect the airflow into the opening (one of its original purposes) without creating a restriction (from the bottom of the soup bowl being so close to the opening in the manifold).

Just a thought...
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:57 PM
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i put it on, i used the stock hold down bolt with 5 sway bar end link bushings and a big washer LOL.

on my little test drive it did seem to pull a lot harder above 2,000 rpm...maybe its just me but ill try my hill test and go from that.
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Hey Cheaperjeeper ... Ya gave me an idea ... What about adding about 6 inches to the air canister, eliminating the snorkel, using appropriate taller filter and using a filter lid rather than the steel or aluminum one? ... Might be better airflow and be cooler air ... Maybe even cover it with a scoop to keep the rain off ...


A gasket between the air canister and the hood would almost make it a shaker ... lol ...
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Hey Cheaperjeeper ... Ya gave me an idea ... What about adding about 6 inches to the air canister, eliminating the snorkel, using appropriate taller filter and using a filter lid rather than the steel or aluminum one? ... Might be better airflow and be cooler air ... Maybe even cover it with a scoop to keep the rain off ...


A gasket between the air canister and the hood would almost make it a shaker ... lol ...
That might work in some places, but not in my neck o' the woods. I rains at least a little bit for 200 days a year on average here (that's an average of about 4 days a week for the math challenged)
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Wow, send some of that rain to the oklahoma panhandle. Its always dry and windy here.
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You can have it Ford Mega Cab ... And the hail too ... Darn near the first of May and it is hailing and frost on the windows this morning ... And I live 2 blocks from the ocean ...

CheaperJeeper ... Why do you think I mentioned a scoop to cover it ... I am just a bit south and west of you ... Down in the corner ... We know the rain here too ...
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Given the piston to head clearance on a diesel, I don't think much of any scoop that is higher than the engine.

Water runs downhill, if it ran into the engine that would be a very bad thing.
Wind can blow the rain sideways for quite some distance, or at least it does here.

Rain falls verticle in about 1 in 15 rain storms we have.
Horizontal rain averages about 1 out of 3.
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Snowing right now here on the beach ... Had an inch on the windshield ... There has to be a way get fresh air in besides from the grill ... Maybe a snorkel ... But they seem to have such small intakes and long narrow tubes ...
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