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Old 04-14-2008, 09:23 PM
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How much boost can a crank take?

I am stilling mapping out my forced induction journey and I am curious how much boost a stock 390 crank can handle? What about the rods? Forged pistons would certainly be in the recipe. Would an aftermarket crank and rods be necessary to get into the 15 psi range?
   
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Old 04-14-2008, 09:41 PM
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It isn't usually the crank that lets go. The rods or bearings go first. A forged crank is the best way to go or a high nodular iron crank like the 428CJ had.
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All cranks were the same nodular iron. CJ was not any different.
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Not according to Ford they aren't. Ford admits to nodular iron in the all their iron cranks, including the 406 and 427 iron cranks but the 428CJ/SCJ are the only ones they discribe as "high nodular controlled cast iron". So if they are the same, why say it is different?
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I would put the best you can afford. Using a 35 yrs old cast crank will be a time bomb....it will fail sooner or later. Aftermarket rods would be a good step, as by the time you spend the money to "refurbish" old 390 rods(or whatever) you might as well spend the $600 for H beam rods.

Ya, I'm getting away with 35 yrs old parts in my junk, but there again I'm at 5-6# of boost and don't abuse it. It barely sees a pound of boost on a daily cruise. If I raced it...it'd be in pieces a long time ago!
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Not according to Ford they aren't. Ford admits to nodular iron in the all their iron cranks, including the 406 and 427 iron cranks but the 428CJ/SCJ are the only ones they discribe as "high nodular controlled cast iron". So if they are the same, why say it is different?

Well Ford invented the crankshaft grade pearlitic nodular iron in 1951 and held all patents for it. Acording to Dave Shoe at FE.com it's a pearlitic/ferritic blend for optimal bearing wear surface, ductility and fatigue resistance. And there are not many grades of crankshaft grade nodular available. Being Ford held the patent they could probably advertise whatever they wanted. But in reality they are indeed there is the same high nodular iron grade in all FE cranks. Now if they were austempered ductile iron that would be a differnet story.
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So if they are the same, why say it is different?
You say Chevy, I say GMC. Same thing.

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Well Ford invented the crankshaft grade pearlitic nodular iron in 1951 and held all patents for it. Acording to Dave Shoe at FE.com it's a pearlitic/ferritic blend for optimal bearing wear surface, ductility and fatigue resistance. And there are not many grades of crankshaft grade nodular available. Being Ford held the patent they could probably advertise whatever they wanted. But in reality they are indeed there is the same high nodular iron grade in all FE cranks. Now if they were austempered ductile iron that would be a differnet story.
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