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Old 04-07-2008, 09:17 PM
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Need help with a my 429

Hi Fella's,
this is my first post here, and I (or my truck) needs some help!

I've got a 1966 F 100, with a slightly built 1970 429.
Complete engine rebuid, with stock heads.
Ok, so I wanted to add a little "show" and more horse power,
so I tossed on a new set of Edlebrock aluminum heads,
rocker rolls, and new shorter push rods.

Same carb, same intake.
I fired it up and it runs real rough at idle, it doesn't seem to have the power it did before, and now, I have gas in the brake booster hose!

I went through the carb today and put in a new power valve (to specs), and new gaskets.
Still that same thing!

I am lost, frustrated, and ready to put the old stuff back on, and call it a day.
Any suggestions, or ideas will be greatly appreciated.
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Old 04-09-2008, 09:57 AM
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Seems odd... When you put the heads on, I presume you set the load and all that good stuff to set your valves correctly. To be honnest, with fuel in the booster hose, it sounds like you have a vacuum leak somewhere along the line. Perhaps the intake is not sealed like it should be. What manifold and carb are you running?
Just thinking outloud... --Mike
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Old 04-09-2008, 10:06 AM
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Seems odd... When you put the heads on, I presume you set the load and all that good stuff to set your valves correctly. To be honnest, with fuel in the booster hose, it sounds like you have a vacuum leak somewhere along the line. Perhaps the intake is not sealed like it should be. What manifold and carb are you running?
Just thinking outloud... --Mike

Hi Mike,
Yes, did the pre-set stuff before hand.
I am running a Edlebrock "Performer" manifold, and a Holly 750 carb (I thought it was a 650, but it's not).

I'm going to check for vacuum leaks this morning, and get back to you.
Thanks to everyone for their help!
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just a thought, you put in shorter push rods! are you sure that the valves are oppening all the way? if not you would have a lot of mixture hanging in the manifold. JNT
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When I got the heads, I asked the guys at Fast Times about that, and they gave me an adjustable puch rod, and told me to:

mark the top of the valve stem with a black marker.
Install the adjustable push rod, and new rocker arm and set the valve.
Then, hand crank the engine over, and then remove the rocker arm to see where the rocker was hitting on the valve stem.
When the mark is centered on the stem, that is the correct length rod to get.
If the mark is on the back side, the rod is to long, and on the front side the rod is to short.


So, that said, you would think the valve is opening as it should with the mark centered on the stem, right, or am I missing something?
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So, that said, you would think the valve is opening as it should with the mark centered on the stem, right, or am I missing something?
You want the rocker center to be a little forward (out) from center of the valve stem, to account for a little travel when the valve is being pushed open, but you are on the right track. Let us know if the potential sealing problem rears its head.

What about ignition timing? were you sure to get everything back as it should be. I have seen a mixed wire route cause hours of wasted beer drinking time...
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Old 04-10-2008, 11:35 PM
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You want the rocker center to be a little forward (out) from center of the valve stem, to account for a little travel when the valve is being pushed open, but you are on the right track. Let us know if the potential sealing problem rears its head.

What about ignition timing? were you sure to get everything back as it should be. I have seen a mixed wire route cause hours of wasted beer drinking time...
--Mike

Mike, when you say "forward", do you mean towards the headers, or towards the carb?
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Excuse the interuption, mrgoodwood, but it pains me when a supposed professional gives a customer advice like the magic marker on the valve trick. Please take the time to read this entire link- it especially relates to the 429. I've been using Mr. Miller's products for some time, and I can guarantee you, if you take the time to read and study his theories, you will find increased performance and reliability. Not trying to be a smarty-pants, just trying to help you get the most for your money. Mid Lift works, that's all there is to it.


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Excuse the interuption, mrgoodwood, but it pains me when a supposed professional gives a customer advice like the magic marker on the valve trick. Please take the time to read this entire link- it especially relates to the 429. I've been using Mr. Miller's products for some time, and I can guarantee you, if you take the time to read and study his theories, you will find increased performance and reliability. Not trying to be a smarty-pants, just trying to help you get the most for your money. Mid Lift works, that's all there is to it.


MILLER ENGINEERING INC


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Pete,
Thanks for your input. I will read the links, and hopefully, get something out of it.
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Excuse the interuption, mrgoodwood, but it pains me when a supposed professional gives a customer advice like the magic marker on the valve trick. Please take the time to read this entire link- it especially relates to the 429. I've been using Mr. Miller's products for some time, and I can guarantee you, if you take the time to read and study his theories, you will find increased performance and reliability. Not trying to be a smarty-pants, just trying to help you get the most for your money. Mid Lift works, that's all there is to it.


MILLER ENGINEERING INC


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Thanks for sharing Pete, very informative
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