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Old 04-07-2008, 01:05 PM
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So TJ even if its a stock turbo off of the dodge will i still see more boost than our stockers on our trucks.
 
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Old 04-07-2008, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Neal 97 250
TIM,
OK after doing some extensive calculating (atleast for me).
17 cm2 = 1.83 in.
19 cm2 = 1.936 in.
21 cm2 = 2.036 in.

Does that sound correct? Is your 17 about 1.8 inches wide?
Im pretty sure that the cm2 is a Square area... so, a 17 cm2 should have an area of: about 6.7 in2. so along the lines of a 2" * 3" inlet. Does that sound right to those of you that have this turbo? And A/R ratios are Area(exhaust inlet) to Radius (turbine center to center of inlet i think...) so it makes sense to me that that would be an area measurement.
 
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Interesting. How would the this compare to the D66?
 
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I cant say, Bean's site doesnt say much about it...
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eh hem... bump?
 
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Originally Posted by secondarychaos
I cant say, Bean's site doesnt say much about it...
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eh hem... bump?
Well... it's got this
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This high performance stock replacement turbo is the first true direct bolt on high performance turbo. Stock turbo flow is around 750 CFM. The high performance turbo upgrade will flow 1050 CFM.That is a 30% air flow increase of stock. This turbo has a limited 1 Year replacement warranty. That is almost 100CFM more than the Hypermax H2E turbo at less than half the price and installation time. Maximum recommended pressure is 40PSI. Core required."

So.... stock flows 750 Cubic feet per min and the D66 flows 1050 Cubic feet per min... What I don't understand it why it's less that a H2E... I'm guessing even thought it says the D66 makes more CFM's that the H2E can handle more PSI??? Tim?

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Originally Posted by Robbgt
That is almost 100CFM more than the Hypermax H2E turbo at less than half the price and installation time. Maximum recommended pressure is 40PSI. Core required."

So.... stock flows 750 Cubic feet per min and the D66 flows 1050 Cubic feet per min... What I don't understand it why it's less that a H2E... I'm guessing even thought it says the D66 makes more CFM's that the H2E can handle more PSI??? Tim?

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That says more than the hypermax h2e...
??? but only recommended max of 40 psi. isnt the H2e good to 60 or so???
Tim?
 
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Old 04-07-2008, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MallardSlayer07
So TJ even if its a stock turbo off of the dodge will i still see more boost than our stockers on our trucks.
I don't know alot about the stock dodge Cummin's turbo but I am quite sure its either a HX35 or HX40. The 35 is rated at less CFM than out stocker and the 40 is rated at 50 more cfm than our stocker assuming Bean's is correct in the 750 CFM rating of our turbo. Here are a some links that give a comparision
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turbo info (you might want this) - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum

Originally Posted by Robbgt
Well... it's got this
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This high performance stock replacement turbo is the first true direct bolt on high performance turbo. Stock turbo flow is around 750 CFM. The high performance turbo upgrade will flow 1050 CFM.That is a 30% air flow increase of stock. This turbo has a limited 1 Year replacement warranty. That is almost 100CFM more than the Hypermax H2E turbo at less than half the price and installation time. Maximum recommended pressure is 40PSI. Core required."

So.... stock flows 750 Cubic feet per min and the D66 flows 1050 Cubic feet per min... What I don't understand it why it's less that a H2E... I'm guessing even thought it says the D66 makes more CFM's that the H2E can handle more PSI??? Tim?

-Robb
Yes the D66 will flow more than the stock H2E the kicker is that the holset turbo's (HX50/H2E) can handle the higher PSI and are fully upgradable. The D66 is at the end of it upgrade list. The D66 is the perfect turbo for the person with stage 1 or 2's who just wants a good combo and doesn't plan on going any further in mods. I have personally toasted a stock turbo and I am less than crazy about the stock center section that the D66 uses. For my purposes the HX50 is the way I am going. I can do it for half the price of the D66 by building my own mounting kit and I have many different options for more air later down the road if needed.

I don't know what the HX50 or H2E can handle PSI wise but I have heard of many taken to 50 psi daily and not had a problem. But with a larger charger also come the need for more fuel. Stock injectors will never spool up a HX50 or H2E. I would think stage 1's might be streetable but there might be alot of tip in (off idle) smoke.
 
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I have to ability to get my hands on a HX35 as my brother upgraded from the stocker on his 2002 Cummins. That lucky guy got Schwitzer Super B Special.... Must be rough to be pilot huh?

TJ, I looked at the fab pics, nothing too crazy there. Just a little work on the up-pipes. However, what would you have for a compressor wheel in the HX50? That sucker is huge. It's bigger than I thought it was.
 
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the stock dodge turbos can handle LOTS!!!!!!!!!
 
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Well.. Technically, I could play with that Schwitzer until my bro installs it on his dodge. Which pry won't be till the end of the year sometime. lol. I got stage II's but I doubt it with light that turbo.

Anyway, I don't know much about the HX35, but I know I can get it really cheap.
 
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The hardest par tof the holset turbo mounting kit will be the downpipe and up pipes. but really the DP will be tricky to keep it away from the firewall.

I really don't know anything about the HX35 and 40 other than what I see in those links I posted. Also I think many of them have a really small exhaust housing on them seems like I have heard 12 and 15cm housings. those will be too small for the 7.3. You have to remember the Cummins is a 5.9 so the PSD is 1.4 liters bigger and turns higher rpm so it needs much more air!
 
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So TJ, when are you gonna fab up this bracket??? lol.

Is it possible to fit a 4" DP on our trucks? I'm sure it would take some serious work. Might even have to wrap the thing if it's too close?

I concerned if you could get this hx50 to light? I'm thinking there would be some serious lag.

You can by a hx50 off of ebay for $200!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This sucks... I've thinking about this all day...lol
 
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Is it possible to fit a 4" DP on our trucks? I'm sure it would take some serious work. Might even have to wrap the thing if it's too close?
with a body lift yes, without no.

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What would a body lift entail?
 
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two pucks for the rad support, 4 for the cab, and 4 or 6 for the bed, I don't remember how many bolts these beds have.

try real hard to lossen all 6 body bolts with the years of northern america salt erroding them, jack up cab and slip pucks in, lower and retighten.

its a sat. afternoon project, worst part is trying to get bolts loose without breaking or rounding off nuts.

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