I'm curious what others are thinking on this topic. If you had to choose, what would you go for? So far there is very little being offered in the way of fuel efficient fullsize truck (and yes, it is possible).
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Fact is you don't have to choose. I get almost 20mpg with my F-350 and can tow way more than 10,000.
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I think its just a theoretical analogy. Its a what if statement.
Thats the idea.
My F250 can do 0-60 in close 10 seconds and can get better than 20 MPG on a good day (not at the same time of course), but its a question for the sake of arguement. What would you be the most satisfied with?
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I like these posts, you can definitely tell what the person wants, they're just looking for acceptance... "hrm, what would you rather have, 15 more torque or 45mpg??" gotta make it a bit more realistic if you're gonna ask that. ranger is rated to tow 6000lbs at its best and they barely get better mpg than the F150... not even close to 20mpg city. if they made the F150 like that, it would sure be its demise. not to mention, towing 6000 lbs with a ranger would be pretty suicidal...
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This is why car companies are offering several engine platforms for trucks and cars. I think Chevy offers like 3 different engines for their silverados (4.6/5.3/6.0) or something like that. Maybe ford can make a more fuel efficient 4.2 V6, 4.7, and 5.4? I know they are already offering the new F-150 with 3 V8 models, but it doesnt seems to be a huge difference between the two 4.7?
I think offering more engine choices, is the answer to the long debated HP vs MPG debate as everybodys needs vary.
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They have been trying to improve the suv mpg's why not the trucks?? If people are going to be saying that they can get 20 ish with a F350 then those who want a F150 diesel should be able to get 25 ish on a bad day.
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I like these posts, you can definitely tell what the person wants, they're just looking for acceptance... "hrm, what would you rather have, 15 more torque or 45mpg??" gotta make it a bit more realistic if you're gonna ask that. ranger is rated to tow 6000lbs at its best and they barely get better mpg than the F150... not even close to 20mpg city. if they made the F150 like that, it would sure be its demise. not to mention, towing 6000 lbs with a ranger would be pretty suicidal...
If you are referring to me, than no, I am not looking for your acceptance. I'm just curious how FTE other than myself members feel about the age old question of MPG vs Horsepower.
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Engine and drive train choices is the answer. That way we're all happy.
Apparantly GM uses some type of an engine / fuel management system that will allow the engine to run all 8 cylinders or less based on demand. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the GM is at best getting 1-2 more MPG than the Ford.
Ford is getting respectable mileage while running all 8 cylinders all the time.
I'll be very curious to see how reliable the GM system is in the long run.
How many extra sensors and sub-systems does it take to selectively manage fuel, air and oil to a specific portion of the engine?
I know we have some mechanical guru's on this sight that simplify my statement / questions.
Tim
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Engine and drive train choices is the answer. That way we're all happy.
Apparantly GM uses some type of an engine / fuel management system that will allow the engine to run all 8 cylinders or less based on demand. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the GM is at best getting 1-2 more MPG than the Ford.
Ford is getting respectable mileage while running all 8 cylinders all the time.
I'll be very curious to see how reliable the GM system is in the long run.
How many extra sensors and sub-systems does it take to selectively manage fuel, air and oil to a specific portion of the engine?
I know we have some mechanical guru's on this sight that simplify my statement / questions.
Tim
Not that many more systems....its realativly simple....dodge offered it for a year or two as well with not much luck. If I read it right...fords going to be coming out with something similar on the 09...but again i might just be dreaming...
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Engine and drive train choices is the answer. That way we're all happy.
Apparantly GM uses some type of an engine / fuel management system that will allow the engine to run all 8 cylinders or less based on demand. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the GM is at best getting 1-2 more MPG than the Ford.
Ford is getting respectable mileage while running all 8 cylinders all the time.
I'll be very curious to see how reliable the GM system is in the long run.
How many extra sensors and sub-systems does it take to selectively manage fuel, air and oil to a specific portion of the engine?
I know we have some mechanical guru's on this sight that simplify my statement / questions.
Tim
GM is having issues currently with the AFM. They are having to rebuild some engines that are making lifeter noise on start up.
I'm not sold on it at all.
The Tundra's 381 HP V8 gets much better MPG than Fords 5.4 that makes what 310 HP? Efficiency should be the way of the future with $4.00 a gallon gas right on the horizon.
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