I thought I saw somewhere that Ford is making the F150 lighter than the previous build by taking some weight out of the frame.
The new Screw is supposed to be bigger yet a bit lighter that the last build.
Anothing I haven't heard mentioned about the newer trucks is areodynamics. Compared to my 94 f350 most newer trucks are way rounder but they have way more foward facing flat surfaces the grills are taller and the windshield is taller. The more wind you push th worse MPG you'll get. And befor people start telling me there f150 is smaller I'm talking about mine compared toa 3/4-1tone or a 94 f150 to new 1/2 tones. the further you go back the shorter the flat surfaces are. Also like mentioned befor the wieght of new trucks is way more. They could help this a bit by swiching to a 32v? system wich would alow smaller wires and on average I belive they save abot 500lbs. I heard talk of this 3 years ago but nothing hapened Not sure if it was 32v or but thats in the ball park.
I haven't voted yet because mytruck surpasses thouse #s already. unless thats the millage and acceleration while towing?
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Hello George, the idea is up to XXMPG under empty contitions.
Now about the lighter trucks...........
I have yet to see any proof of this. Watching an interview with one of the lead designers of the 09 F150, he seemed to dance around the question of the new truck being "lighter". What I draw from this is that the new truck will likely be bigger than the older one and weigh about the same, I have doubts that the new truck will in fact be lighter in a significant way. Well actually it IS bigger, that much we know.
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I get 20mpg highway and can tow 11k and I do 0-60 in 10 seconds with my 6.0 Excursion. These type of vehicles are here today, no sacrifice in power for mpgs with my vehicle......
Hello George, the idea is up to XXMPG under empty contitions.
Now about the lighter trucks...........
I have yet to see any proof of this. Watching an interview with one of the lead designers of the 09 F150, he seemed to dance around the question of the new truck being "lighter". What I draw from this is that the new truck will likely be bigger than the older one and weigh about the same, I have doubts that the new truck will in fact be lighter in a significant way. Well actually it IS bigger, that much we know.
High David, wierd running in to you up hear the title caut my attention and you're asking a tough question I still can't decide wich I would choose.
It would definately be a step in the right direction if they do make them lighter Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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The "FACT IS" the big three are doing the whole country an injustice by getting into these HP/Mine is bigger, badder than yours war.
They all offer three weight classes of trucks. Making the 1/2 ton trucks into 3/4 tons makes them weigh more, and get worse fuel mileage. Start selling them to 40% of the public, and fuel consumption increases. Driving prices up.
I'll say it again, if Ford put the F150 on a 1500lb diet, and got the fuel mileage up to 25 MPG. Peeps would be lined up around the block, trading in their trucks for a new F150.
If you truly need a truck to tow 8K plus, you should be in a F250 anyways!
I'd almost bet that 90% of F150 owners never even come close to the CGVW.
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I do, but I have an 01 with the 2V engine with a towing capacity of 7400#. I am usually a little over, but the truck itself usually isn't loaded with much so I'm not at the CGVW.
The "FACT IS" the big three are doing the whole country an injustice by getting into these HP/Mine is bigger, badder than yours war.
Correct. But you forgot to mention the war is driven by consumer demand. The buyer has traditionally wanted more power better than yours. With Gas looking at the $4.00 range consumer demand may change.
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The "FACT IS" the big three are doing the whole country an injustice by getting into these HP/Mine is bigger, badder than yours war.
They all offer three weight classes of trucks. Making the 1/2 ton trucks into 3/4 tons makes them weigh more, and get worse fuel mileage. Start selling them to 40% of the public, and fuel consumption increases. Driving prices up.
I'll say it again, if Ford put the F150 on a 1500lb diet, and got the fuel mileage up to 25 MPG. Peeps would be lined up around the block, trading in their trucks for a new F150.
If you truly need a truck to tow 8K plus, you should be in a F250 anyways!
I'd almost bet that 90% of F150 owners never even come close to the CGVW.
I pretty much agree. If you want to tow what an F250 or F 350 will then buy one of those. I had an 03 F 150 that was rated to tow about 7200-7400lbs. We had it about three years and only towed anything that heavy one time. We mostly used it for a grocery getter and hardly used it for a truck at all. That is why we traded it in a couple of months ago for an Edge. I still have my 95 F 350 for truck duty anyway.
Just another thought. Why can't they make two different levels of F 150. A lighter duty one that would do what most people use their half tons for and a heavier duty one like the ones they are trying to build now. They can lighten the one up and put the smaller or more foel efficient engine in it and have it able to tow 5-6k. The heavier one would be like they are building now.
Some of you talk about having a second gas saver car, but you have to justify if buying the car, maintaining it, and insuring it is worth having it. In my case it comes out pretty close to the same cost as driving my 95 F 350 and getting 12mpg. I know everyones situation is different and it may benefit some more than others. If you had a lighter truck that would get 20-25 mpg you would only need one vehicle to do most of what you would need to do.
In the future our new CAFE requirements will dictate smaller and lighter trucks. The 2009 F150 will be replaced by a next generation vehicle that gets better mileage. Ford really doesn't have any other choice if F150 sales are to continue at present rates.
I'm all for a lighter truck that gets great fuel mileage(25+) Where can they cut weight out of these trucks other than the frame?
I'd hate to have them cut back on exterior metal thickness and the tailgate like Toyota did. Maybe a lighter carbon type block could cut some weight?
I really like the new Screw but I'm wondering how they could lighten it up.
Maybe they could make them just a bit smaller.
How about a hybrid that would still tow 6,000+ pounds and get 20 /25 MPG?
I see Toyota is going to unveil one for 2010 and Chevy has one coming out too. That would be a better option than diesel for sure unless you needed the towing capacity.
I wouldn't mind something like that as I really don't haul much other than my dog crates, dogs and decoys and my aluminum boat.
Just another thought. Why can't they make two different levels of F 150. A lighter duty one that would do what most people use their half tons for and a heavier duty one like the ones they are trying to build now. They can lighten the one up and put the smaller or more foel efficient engine in it and have it able to tow 5-6k. The heavier one would be like they are building now.
Steve
Maybe we could see the return of the F100.
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2002 F350 6-speed 444 CID. XLT, Heated Seat, 255,000 & counting. 6637 w/ Pete's armor. Cold air set up for 6637
“Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.” Will Rogers
I'll say it again, if Ford put the F150 on a 1500lb diet, and got the fuel mileage up to 25 MPG. Peeps would be lined up around the block, trading in their trucks for a new F150.
To lose 1,500 lbs, the truck would have to be smaller. They call that a Ranger or a Tacoma or a Colorado, etc. The people have made their desires known and it ain't a little truck.
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As gas approaches $4.00/gal I'd bet that big isn't going to be as popular as 25mpg. In 1970's, just after the big gas price jump, you couldn't give away a gas guzzler. If fuel continues to rise above $4.00 I"ll bet you see 1/2 ton trucks on the block for next to nothing.
Given cheap fuel we've always shown a preference for big, fast, and heavy vehicles.
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