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Old 03-22-2008, 07:08 PM
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05 Diesel in need of power steering pump please advise

Well my truck is impossible to turn at idle VERY difficult to turn while braking dangerous to stop quickly, etc.... I took my truck to the local stealership to get checked out the told me that i needed a new power steering pump. Well the pump isnt too bad only $159 but the labor is over $500 total bill was around $750 for everything.

My question is how difficult is it to change a power steering pump? I am very mechanically inclined and have great tools and shop to work with but no lift.

Any other advice, tips, etc. will be greatly appreciated. Should I go aftermarket pump or OEM?
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Do a search for AGR, PSC pumps or Saginaw pumps. The owners of AGR left and formed PSC. They had some initial problems, but some have said they corrected them:

Aftermarket power steering pumps came HIGHLY recommended at one time from what I have read, but then I read one warning:

The high output AGR pumps had problems with the restriction in the hydroboost unit and died a premature death. AGR used to be run by the owners of PSC who sold it and then started a new company. The PSC units reportedly held up better but now I am hearing reports of those failing due to hydroboost restriction problems. The hydroboost needed to be sent to a firm (in CA?) for modification and then all was good. I would call them and get the story from the pros.
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cool thnaks for the info. Do u or anybody out there know how difficult is is to change?
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cool thnaks for the info. Do u or anybody out there know how difficult is is to change?
I see you have an '05. I don't have any information on 2005's but this 2003-2004 info may shed SOME light on the basics...
<hr> Power Steering Pump — CII

<table border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="50%"> <caption>Special Tool(s)</caption> <tbody><tr valign="top"><td></td><td valign="top"> Installer Set, Teflon® Seal
211-D027 (D90P-3517-A)</td></tr></tbody></table>Removal and Installation
  1. Remove the power steering pump pulley. For additional information, refer to Power Steering Pump Pulley — CII Pump in this section.
  1. Loosen the clamps and remove the air cleaner outlet tube.
  1. Remove the inlet air tube.
    1. Loosen the clamp.
    1. Detach the ducts from the charge air cooler and remove the inlet air tube.
  1. Remove the return hose.
  1. Place a pan under the power steering pump and drain the pump.
  1. Disconnect the power steering high-pressure line.
  1. Remove the bolts and detach the pump from the bracket.
  1. Disconnect the power steering oil cooler return hose and remove the pump.
  1. To install, reverse the removal procedure.
  1. When connecting a fitting with a Teflon® seal, a new ring must be installed.
    • Using the special tool, install a Teflon® seal over a fitting.
  1. Fill and leak check the power steering system. For additional information, refer to Section 211-00.
<hr>Power Steering Pump — CIII



<table border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="50%"> <caption>Special Tool(s)</caption> <tbody><tr valign="top"><td></td><td valign="top"> Installer Set, Teflon® Seal
211-D027 (D90P-3517-A)</td></tr></tbody></table>Removal and Installation

CAUTION: While repairing the power steering system, care should be taken to prevent the entry of contaminants or premature failure of the power steering components can result.

All vehicles
  1. Remove the power steering pump pulley. For additional information, refer to Power Steering Pump Pulley — CIII Pump in this section.
  1. Disconnect the pressure line and return hose.
Vehicles with 5.4L and 6.8L engines
  1. Remove the bolts and the pump.
Vehicles with 6.0L engine
  1. Remove the bolts and the pump.
All vehicles
  1. To install, reverse the removal procedure.
  1. Using the special tool, install a new Teflon® seal on the pressure line fitting.
  1. Fill and leak check the system. For additional information, refer to Section 211-00.
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Great post Oz. One more link in my ever expanding spreadsheet.
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Great post Oz. One more link in my ever expanding spreadsheet.
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See if you can access this site:
http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pubs/content/~WS4O/~MUS~LEN/20/S4OLEFT.HTM
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Oz - already having fun - can't wait for the weekend to come.... diggin in now:

I have a 2006 truck.

I substituted a "6" for each of the two "4"'s in the link you posted and guess what????

....there was the 2006 Workshop Manual
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 607pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=809 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 607pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 29586" width=809><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=21><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; WIDTH: 607pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=809 height=21>http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pubs/content/~WS6O/~MUS~LEN/20/S6OLEFT.HTM</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

and similarly, the 2005 Workshop Manual:
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 607pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=809 border=0 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 607pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 29586" width=809><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=21><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; WIDTH: 607pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=809 height=21>http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pub...20/S5OLEFT.HTM</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Thanks again (ps I sent some rep points your way).
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Oz - already having fun - can't wait for the weekend to come.... diggin in now:

I have a 2006 truck.

I substituted a "6" for each of the two "4"'s in the link you posted and guess what????

....there was the 2006 Workshop Manual
<table style="width: 607pt; border-collapse: collapse;" x:str="" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="809"><colgroup><col style="width: 607pt;" width="809"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"><td class="xl24" style="border: medium none rgb(212, 208, 200); width: 607pt; height: 15.75pt; background-color: transparent;" height="21" width="809">http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pubs/content/~WS6O/~MUS~LEN/20/S6OLEFT.HTM</td></tr></tbody></table>

and similarly, the 2005 Workshop Manual:
<table style="width: 607pt; border-collapse: collapse;" x:str="" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="809"><colgroup><col style="width: 607pt;" width="809"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height: 15.75pt;" height="21"><td class="xl24" style="border: medium none rgb(212, 208, 200); width: 607pt; height: 15.75pt; background-color: transparent;" height="21" width="809">http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pubs/content/~WS5O/~MUS~LEN/20/S5OLEFT.HTM</td></tr></tbody></table>


Thanks again (ps I sent some rep points your way).
WOW! Great trick! That ought to keep you going until Memorial day Thanks for the +reps
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See if you can access this site:
http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pub...20/S4OLEFT.HTM
Is there a link like this for the 06 f350 superduty??? It would help me greatly.

Thanks
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It is in my previous post - a few back from this one
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Is there a link like this for the 06 f350 superduty??? It would help me greatly.

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http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pubs/content/~WS6O/~MUS~LEN/20/S6OLEFT.HTM
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Well, this was some nice "surfing". I was going to ask some questions about my 2008 F-250 power steering, now I have a shop manual to peruse! Thanks!
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