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Old 03-03-2008, 09:49 PM
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TwEECer??

Anybody w/ a TwEECer RT out there?? If so what do u think about it ?? I'm thinkin on gettin one myself, ..94 F250 , 408 ci. MAF conversion, E303 cam, Elelbrock heads, and Intake, 30lb injectors
   
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:51 PM
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There has been some talk about issues with the R/T version on EEC-4 MA trucks. Not sure if they have ironed it out but I'd suggest checking with them, to ensure everything WILL work properly, before purchasing it. Otherwise, you shouldn't have a problem with the base Tweecer version; just find a good datalogger like EASE or Autotap.
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There has been some talk about issues with the R/T version on EEC-4 MA trucks. .
Are these issues specific to the MAF truck computers? What have you heard? In case you missed it the the MAF conversion uses a mustang computer. I just bought a TweecerRT and I'm in the middle of installing it, but bad weather is cramping my style and it's taking a lot longer than I would like so I have no user experience to share yet. The SW looks pretty good to me so far, I had no issues with installing it or doing the initial configs with the module on my Win2k laptop.
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I wasn't aware that the conversion consisted of a Mustang ECU. And yes, the issues were with the truck ECU's, mainly with the data logging side of it. Not sure if they ever got it ironed though.
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Old 03-04-2008, 11:42 AM
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I wasn't aware that the conversion consisted of a Mustang ECU.
Yep.. the kit I have and at least 1 other guy here(could be Wayne above) have the Ford kit which includes the C3W1 SEFI computer from a '89-93 Mustang, it's in the same family as the A9P.
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Hey Paul, lookin forward to ur thinkin on the TwEECer, I would like more info on the softwarw, like is it similar to the "sniper" system? what questions are asked to get started? like eng. size, injector size?? stuff like that, and can u set ur idle RPM?
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Have you got a link to the Sniper system?

You'll find lots of info on the Tweecer on their web site, http://www.tweecer.com/, the SW is free to download. With this system you can modify any parameter you like, you have full control, but it demands you have at least some understanding of engine control systems. It will get technical in a hurry and will require lots of reading and some experimentation, the upside is there have been a lot of people down this road before so there is plenty of information out there to explain all these technicalities. Here's another good site that is related.. http://eectuning.org/forums/index.php
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Yea, I looked at the Sniper web site, and that soft ware asked EVERYTHING about ur engine, I was just wondering if the TwEECer was similar. Did u buy it from a dealer , or strait from TwEECer?? Was it around 550$ ? One more thing, I think we have the same EEC being we have the "Ford Motorsport" conversion kit, my EEC has no "sticker" anymore, just computer print on the plastic connector part w/ "GTE" and several letters and numbers that follows, What did u tell them what u had??
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Yea, I looked at the Sniper web site, and that soft ware asked EVERYTHING about ur engine, I was just wondering if the TwEECer was similar. Did u buy it from a dealer , or strait from TwEECer?? Was it around 550$ ? One more thing, I think we have the same EEC being we have the "Ford Motorsport" conversion kit, my EEC has no "sticker" anymore, just computer print on the plastic connector part w/ "GTE" and several letters and numbers that follows, What did u tell them what u had??
I got the Tweecer from a Canadian dealer for $550... Gotta love having the Loonie at par. If you go to the Tweecer web site you'll see the two programs are very similar, the RT version includes the data logging feature which is what you want anyway. You have control over everything with the Tweecer, but they sorta leave you on your own to set it up. The tweecer supports just about any EEC processor, and there are a large number that have been fully explored so everything you need to know is out there on the web.

The computer catch code will be the large 3 or 4 digit sequence printed on the EEC connector, this is what you want to look at to determine if yours is compatible.
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That's one of the the things I didn't like about Tweecer; end user support. The good thing is that the A9 family has been researched well by other users so getting a baseline file from someone, that is close to your setup, shouldn't be too hard. As for Sniper, I believe that they only support 96 and later EEC-5 applications.

Have you looked into using SCT Advantage software?
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That's one of the things I didn't like about Tweecer; end user support.
Yep.. you definitely want to be a tech savy type with the Tweecer, there is no wizzard to guide you through tuning. I have done a ton of reading on it already, visited the sites and links from the Tweecer and EEC.org websites, read the installation and getting started documents, and I don't see any major stumbling blocks. If you have a motor that runs at all on the stock computer, then all you have to do is read the stock calibrations from it and start making the changes necessary. Once you get rolling it's just a mater of experimentation, make a change and save the tune, take it for a test drive and datalog the results, analyze the results and burn a new tune to start the process all over again.
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I dont have the computer number on my computer anymore, the only numbers that are printed on the connector part is in computer print and says........E9AF 14A624 AA
That is also the same as my "SD" computer, w/ the Sticker removed, the sticker w/ the EEC numbers, that i'm missing on my MAF EEC. Mine has to be a mustang EEC, or could it be a truck MAF ? wonder how I can find out?, the place I bought it says its a Mustang EEC, should be the same as a A9 family.
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I dont have the computer number on my computer anymore, the only numbers that are printed on the connector part is in computer print and says........E9AF 14A624 AA
Do you have a decal like this on the side of the connector?
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No Paul, that decal is missing.
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Yep.. you definitely want to be a tech savy type with the Tweecer, there is no wizzard to guide you through tuning....
I know all about that...CalEdit and CalCon have been on my laptop for a few years. Tweecer is an effective tuning tool indeed, but after experimenting with it, I didn't care too much for it at all. I think it's ok for simple builds with bolt-ons, that usually allows the user to learn the software better where changes aren't so drastic.
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