Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Newer Light Duty Trucks > Expedition & Navigator
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


Expedition & Navigator 1997 - 2002 and 2003 - 2006 Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator SPONSORED BY:

Welcome to Ford-Trucks Forums!
Welcome to Ford-Trucks.com.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Ford-Trucks Forums community today!





 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-03-2008, 06:38 PM
nvr4get343 nvr4get343 is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1
nvr4get343 is starting off with a positive reputation.
2001 Expedition towing capacity

I currently own a 2001 Expedition. It is an XLT with the 5.4L V8. i have the tow package. i recently purchased my first travel trailer and was told by the salesman I could pull it no problem. When I towed it it was extremely uncomfortable. The trailer wieghs in at 7200 LBS dry weight. I am assuming loaded I will be in the neighborhood of 8000LBS. he is still telling me the Expedition will do it no problems. I of course disagree.
I am having difficulty figuring out what my weight limits are. He wont give me any answer other then "your fine".

I am not sure of my gear ratio but from what i can figure it really wont matter.

Any thoughts?

Thanks
Marc

Last edited by nvr4get343; 03-03-2008 at 06:46 PM. Reason: Spelling
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-03-2008, 10:15 PM
makomarine makomarine is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Michigan Det ToThe Soo!
Posts: 169
makomarine is starting off with a positive reputation.
WOW! that seems like alot of weight for an expe... IMO.... i just sold a 23' classic that weighed in at 3500lbs.... and that was the lightest in it's class because the structure and the frame were all made out of aluminum; hence the light weight of that big of a trailer..... the mfg makes them to be able to pull by a "small" suv like an explorer etc; that said that would tax an explorere for exteneded periods of time...

how long is the 8000# trailer? if your pulling that with any type of regularity i would think you should get a F350 with a diesel/v10....

you could try load leveling bars? that may help... but just they weight alone seems like a lot.... (yes i know the ratings... bla bla bla ie "able to pull 10k lbs", but doesn't mean it's going to be pleasant pulling that 10k lbs!!)

how long is the trailer? tandem? triple axle?
__________________
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3088/...b523f0096f.jpg
2000 Expedition XLT Sport, 4.6L, 4x4, Michigan i-75 from South to North!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-04-2008, 06:32 AM
projectSHO89 projectSHO89 is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: St Louis
Posts: 8,874
projectSHO89 is a splendid one to beholdprojectSHO89 is a splendid one to beholdprojectSHO89 is a splendid one to beholdprojectSHO89 is a splendid one to beholdprojectSHO89 is a splendid one to beholdprojectSHO89 is a splendid one to beholdprojectSHO89 is a splendid one to beholdprojectSHO89 is a splendid one to behold
Check the axle ratio (door tag) then look up your engine transmission, driveline, and ratio in your owner's manual to see what the rated towing capacity is (page 172).

It's the salesman's job to sell you a trailer. He probably cares dick for whether or not it's safe. He probably figures that if you have to go buy a new truck in addition to the travel trailer, he'll loose the sale of the trailer.
__________________
2001 F250 SD V10 4x4
HVAC FAQs: http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/75...xpedition.html
Owner's manuals: www.motorcraftservice.com
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” - Mark Twain
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-04-2008, 08:06 AM
shov76's Avatar
shov76 shov76 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 250
shov76 is starting off with a positive reputation.
I pulled a 7,000 pound TT from CT to Key West and back. Not to mention trips up and down the East Coast. Gearing is very important. Hopefully you have the 3.73's.
my max towing rate is 8,900.
Just bought a 29 footer that is 6,800 dry. Can't wait to go camping!!!!
__________________
Shov
2003 E.B. Expy
5.4 HD Tow Package
2008 Springdale 296 Travel Trailer
1976 Shovelhead
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-04-2008, 08:09 AM
shov76's Avatar
shov76 shov76 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 250
shov76 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Forgot to mention the importance of weight distibution bars and an anti sway device. I use the reese dual cam. It's both WD and anti-sway
__________________
Shov
2003 E.B. Expy
5.4 HD Tow Package
2008 Springdale 296 Travel Trailer
1976 Shovelhead
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-04-2008, 09:05 AM
2000Expy's Avatar
2000Expy 2000Expy is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: VA
Posts: 689
2000Expy is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
You should have a towing manual in your owner's manual case. I don't think it's more than about 6000# for a 4x4. You have more towing capacity with 16" wheels than 17" wheels, and with 4x2 than 4x4. I forget how engine size plays into the equation.
__________________
2000 Expedition XLT 4x4
4.6L Triton engine
Bilstein shocks
16" Michelin X® Radial LT
Kenwood 10 CD-changer
Virginia Chapter
I'm never serious unless I should be.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-04-2008, 09:15 AM
projectSHO89 projectSHO89 is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: St Louis
Posts: 8,874
projectSHO89 is a splendid one to beholdprojectSHO89 is a splendid one to beholdprojectSHO89 is a splendid one to beholdprojectSHO89 is a splendid one to beholdprojectSHO89 is a splendid one to beholdprojectSHO89 is a splendid one to beholdprojectSHO89 is a splendid one to beholdprojectSHO89 is a splendid one to behold
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2000Expy
You should have a towing manual in your owner's manual case. I don't think it's more than about 6000# for a 4x4. You have more towing capacity with 16" wheels than 17" wheels, and with 4x2 than 4x4. I forget how engine size plays into the equation.
See the pages in the owner's manual I specified above.

Everything is there.
__________________
2001 F250 SD V10 4x4
HVAC FAQs: http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/75...xpedition.html
Owner's manuals: www.motorcraftservice.com
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.” - Mark Twain
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-04-2008, 10:38 AM
98EB-Expedition 98EB-Expedition is offline
Junior User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 70
98EB-Expedition is starting off with a positive reputation.
I pull about 7k with mine 2300lbs car hauler and 4500lbs Jeep...I know thats less then what you are planning on pulling but mine doest it just fine. Get 9-10 miles to the gallon doing it as well. I would think you should be ok but that is a pretty heavy load.
__________________
1999 Jeep Wrangler 6" Lift geared 4.88 with ARB air lockers with 35's and lots of mods

1998 Eddie Bauer Ford Expedition - My Jeep's Tow Vehicle
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-04-2008, 09:11 PM
rowekmr rowekmr is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 387
rowekmr is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.rowekmr is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Which year Explorers would be taxed by a 3500# TT? I routinely pulled my 8K boat/trailer with my old 98 Exp 5.0 AWD rated at 6600# around town (across state lines) up and down boat ramps and its replacement a 06 Exp Ltd 4.6 4X4 (rated about 7300#) also across state lines and in the local stop and go traffic with up to 4 passengers, even in 100 heat with the a/c on also the up and down of boat ramps. I have put on about 20K since I got it and haven't had any problems yet (I did get the ext warranty though). To my suprise I pulled my 31" BHDS travel trailer home with my Exp (7.5 empty) because I didn't have my Excursion yet and besides the enormous rear sag it did fine. I always thought my boat/trailer was about 6000# until I weighed it last year so I didn't plan to be over the limit.



Quote:
Originally Posted by makomarine
WOW! that seems like alot of weight for an expe... IMO.... i just sold a 23' classic that weighed in at 3500lbs.... and that was the lightest in it's class because the structure and the frame were all made out of aluminum; hence the light weight of that big of a trailer..... the mfg makes them to be able to pull by a "small" suv like an explorer etc; that said that would tax an explorere for exteneded periods of time...

how long is the 8000# trailer? if your pulling that with any type of regularity i would think you should get a F350 with a diesel/v10....

you could try load leveling bars? that may help... but just they weight alone seems like a lot.... (yes i know the ratings... bla bla bla ie "able to pull 10k lbs", but doesn't mean it's going to be pleasant pulling that 10k lbs!!)

how long is the trailer? tandem? triple axle?
__________________
03 Excursion Ltd 6.0L ARP studs/HG, blue spring mod, 6.4L Banjo bolts, K&N CAI, turbo back exhaust, coolant filter, IDP tunes, SCT Livewire
03 Lincoln Navigator (sold)
96 Regal 258
08 Jayco 31 BHDS G2
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 03-08-2008, 12:55 PM
Yesprofit Yesprofit is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 122
Yesprofit is starting off with a positive reputation.
My 98 5.4 4X4 is rated at 7900 lounds I believe. I am towing a 6000 pound (7600 loaded) trailer and it is sluggish on the inclines. I would recommend getting it scaled after it is loaded. Also remember the weight of the freight in the Expy as well. I have 2 adults, 2 kids and 2 labs, so I am close to capacity.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 03-08-2008, 11:17 PM
tykateexcursion tykateexcursion is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 268
tykateexcursion is starting off with a positive reputation.
I pulled a 27' TT dry with a loaded weight of 7000, It has been two years sinc i looked at my book for max weight for a Expediton i thin max was 7500 for a 5.4 4x4 with 3.55. I really didn't liked how it pulled that first year. I went out and bought a used Excursion with a v10 which pulls as if the trailer is not behind the Excursion. also with the Excrusion the ride is much better fgor the family and do not have white knucles by the time i get to the camp site.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 03-09-2008, 12:03 AM
MisterCMK's Avatar
MisterCMK MisterCMK is online now
Avid Winter Hater
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Posts: 18,660
MisterCMK has a superb reputationMisterCMK has a superb reputationMisterCMK has a superb reputationMisterCMK has a superb reputationMisterCMK has a superb reputationMisterCMK has a superb reputationMisterCMK has a superb reputationMisterCMK has a superb reputationMisterCMK has a superb reputationMisterCMK has a superb reputationMisterCMK has a superb reputation
To the OP, that rig you are looking at getting is too heavy for the Expedition to tow on a regular basis. Remember that you will have passengers, cargo in your truck and all of the clothes, food, water, etc that is loaded into your camper.
__________________
Chris - Avid Winter Hater
2007 F-250 XLT 4x4 CC SB 6.0 PSD - ARP, IPR Gen2 EGR Delete, 4" turbo-back, no muffler, no cat, 6.4 banjo bolts, SCT X3, EA 270A Alt, coolant filter, air bags, Ranchos, etc.
1994 Mustang GT - HCI, Novi2k blower, MM suspension parts, etc
Hope & A Prayer Motorsports
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 04-18-2011, 12:48 PM
russellp russellp is offline
New User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1
russellp is starting off with a positive reputation.
I had a 2004 Explorer with the 4L engine and towed a boat that had a loaded weight of about 56oolbs on the trailer and had absolutely no problem what so ever. The total length of the boat and trailer was about 27 feet. Never had an issue on major hills, highways or pulling it out of the water. I now have a 2010 F-150 with a 5.4 pulling the same load and doesn't even feel it behind at any time. I am sure that the Expedition should be able to handle that load.
Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2011, 12:48 PM
Reply

Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Newer Light Duty Trucks > Expedition & Navigator

Tags
1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 46, capacity, expedition, ford, limit, package, sluggish, tow, towing, trucks, xlt

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.5.2 ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford® is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup