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Old 03-26-2008, 02:49 PM
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Actually the majority in the senate is a misnomer since there is not ENOUGH of a majority to overide a presidential veto. So nothing that they would want to push through would get past him(ask me about air traffic controller contract negotiations). What you are getting now is more of the same from the GOP, not the democrats. No, I'm not better off now. Actually much worse in the long run. And it's only due to one person......

If its only due to one person how come they can't overide a veto???
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If its only due to one person how come they can't override a veto???
The one person I referred to is the president. The senate and house both require a 2/3 majority vote to override a presidential veto. Yes, the democrats have a slim majority, but not enough of one to accomplish anything unless they swing some of the GOP over to their side.
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The one person I referred to is the president. The senate and house both require a 2/3 majority vote to override a presidential veto. Yes, the democrats have a slim majority, but not enough of one to accomplish anything unless they swing some of the GOP over to their side.

Sounds like its more than one person to me then, and surely some of those in the legislative branch are up for reelection and will be voted back in or out by a majority.
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Actually much worse in the long run. And it's only due to one person......
Yes, because the President has complete and total control over the entire US economy. The economy is is no way affected in any manner by parts of the US government, foriegn governments or economies, international trade, or ANYTHING except one man from Texas who is out to get YOU and every other single person in America.

If Bush is as much of a bumbling idiot cowboy as he's made out to be, how is he smart enough to single-handedly manipulate economies across the globe in a hidden oil conspiracy, sucessfully outwitting every other person on the planet?

Bush is apparently the dumbest frat boy to ever come out of Yale, but you blame him for being the one and only roadblock between the US economy and unfettered prosperity.
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Yes, because the President has complete and total control over the entire US economy. The economy is is no way affected in any manner by parts of the US government, foriegn governments or economies, international trade, or ANYTHING except one man from Texas who is out to get YOU and every other single person in America.

If Bush is as much of a bumbling idiot cowboy as he's made out to be, how is he smart enough to single-handedly manipulate economies across the globe in a hidden oil conspiracy, sucessfully outwitting every other person on the planet?

Bush is apparently the dumbest frat boy to ever come out of Yale, but you blame him for being the one and only roadblock between the US economy and unfettered prosperity.
In my post I was referring only to myself - "No, I'm not better off now. Actually much worse in the long run." Which was what the original post asked us to ponder.

I didn't say anything about the economy, hidden oil conspiracies, or anything like that. I didn't say Bush was a bumbling idiot, or a dumb frat boy, or controlled the world economy by himself. I spoke of one specific concern that affects my situation: I was stating that he had a very specific agenda when it came to negotiating a labor contract with the 14,XXX air traffic controllers employed by the FAA. And that because of that, MY situation is not as rosy as it used to be. I would assume that other controllers would feel the same, as I work with alot of them, but I only spoke, and will only speak for myself.
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62rag.... yeah sorry. I didn't mean to aim that at you. I was just fired up about all of this thread on oil prices and people ripping on the wrong parties. No offense to you, or your situation. I was aiming at a general topic relating back to the OP.
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No offense taken. I know things get heated when politics are involved, regards.
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Actually the majority in the senate is a misnomer since there is not ENOUGH of a majority to overide a presidential veto. So nothing that they would want to push through would get past him(ask me about air traffic controller contract negotiations). What you are getting now is more of the same from the GOP, not the democrats. No, I'm not better off now. Actually much worse in the long run. And it's only due to one person......
Well, my salary has doubled in the last 3 years, so I see things quite differently than you. You see, I don't have to worry about filing greievences, and Union Contract negotiations, I make what I make, because I am good at what I do, and no one has to carry me. I most certainly don't have to pay to work for anyone, lest I don't need any protection, other than my Second Ammendment Rights. You did expose yourself though we ragging on the GOP being a Union Air Traffic Controller. I mean wow, what a shock, your still mad cause Ronnie told you guys you were overpaid, now go back to work or be replaced. As far as Unions go, Clinton pretty much handed it to you guys. Big Steel voted for him, and he put them out of business.
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Just saw it last night, anyone really know why?

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And just in case anyone missed it, this was the original post.
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Well, my salary has doubled in the last 3 years, so I see things quite differently than you. You see, I don't have to worry about filing greievences, and Union Contract negotiations, I make what I make, because I am good at what I do, and no one has to carry me. I most certainly don't have to pay to work for anyone, lest I don't need any protection, other than my Second Ammendment Rights. You did expose yourself though we ragging on the GOP being a Union Air Traffic Controller. I mean wow, what a shock, your still mad cause Ronnie told you guys you were overpaid, now go back to work or be replaced. As far as Unions go, Clinton pretty much handed it to you guys. Big Steel voted for him, and he put them out of business.
Sounds like things are going well for you, congratulations. My salary hasn't doubled in the past three years, maybe ten. In 1981 I was in high school, and don't recall much about the mass firing of controllers, so I don't think it's still on my mind now. I also get paid well, because I'm good at what I do. There is not alot of room for error in this industry, they don't keep the people who can't cut it, as there is too much liability. Yes, Clinton did hand it too us, then Bush took it back. I've seen both sides, and I know fully well which one works best for me.
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I don't complain about the fuel prices. I just drive less and thats OK too. I drive my wife's Buick more often. I don't expect the Government to fix our problems. I don't think it is the Governments job to fix our problems. I think we need to stand on our own two feet and suck it up.

I don't think the government should bail out banks, or farmers, or folks who make bad decisions and get ARM (adjustable rate mortgages). I don't think it should be FEMAs job to rebuild a section of our country that is below sea level where a bunch of NOT SO BRIGHT folks decided to build houses.

This is a great country, and I would live NOWHERE else. But I think our government needs to be much smaller. I think we each need to live with the decisions we make. If you have made wise decisions then GOOD ON YA, live long and prosper. If you have been unwise or lazy (I don't believe in unlucky)......I don't believe anyone should pay for another persons mistakes but them. So I do not believe in our Bankrupcy protection laws. If you can't afford to heat your house or drive the vehicle you choose to buy....change your living circumstances!!! Get a new or second job, move to a warmer climate, by a fuel efficient vehicle.

There I'm done exercising my 2nd amendment rights.
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I don't complain about the fuel prices. I just drive less and thats OK too. I drive my wife's Buick more often. I don't expect the Government to fix our problems. I don't think it is the Governments job to fix our problems. I think we need to stand on our own two feet and suck it up.

I don't think the government should bail out banks, or farmers, or folks who make bad decisions and get ARM (adjustable rate mortgages). I don't think it should be FEMAs job to rebuild a section of our country that is below sea level where a bunch of NOT SO BRIGHT folks decided to build houses.

This is a great country, and I would live NOWHERE else. But I think our government needs to be much smaller. I think we each need to live with the decisions we make. If you have made wise decisions then GOOD ON YA, live long and prosper. If you have been unwise or lazy (I don't believe in unlucky)......I don't believe anyone should pay for another persons mistakes but them. So I do not believe in our Bankrupcy protection laws. If you can't afford to heat your house or drive the vehicle you choose to buy....change your living circumstances!!! Get a new or second job, move to a warmer climate, by a fuel efficient vehicle.

There I'm done exercising my 2nd amendment rights.
I think you meant to say 1st amendment right? I agree that the government should be smaller. I agree that the goverment should not fix our problems, but we are in deep. We need to make changes in this country and to start we need to be very careful on Nov. 3. Like it or not the gov. will be invovled, so we need to put the right people in office to minimze governments involvement and if anyone thinks that Hillary or Obama are the answer you are in for a long haul.
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yea, I don't care for McCain.......but I think he is alot better than Obama or Hillary.
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I think you meant to say 1st amendment right? I agree that the government should be smaller. I agree that the goverment should not fix our problems, but we are in deep. We need to make changes in this country and to start we need to be very careful on Nov. 3. Like it or not the gov. will be invovled, so we need to put the right people in office to minimze governments involvement and if anyone thinks that Hillary or Obama are the answer you are in for a long haul.
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I think you meant to say 1st amendment right?
He may have meant 1st ammendment right, I however meant 2nd. As the second ammendment in my part of the country pretty much protects the first.
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Sounds like things are going well for you, congratulations. My salary hasn't doubled in the past three years, maybe ten. In 1981 I was in high school, and don't recall much about the mass firing of controllers, so I don't think it's still on my mind now. I also get paid well, because I'm good at what I do. There is not alot of room for error in this industry, they don't keep the people who can't cut it, as there is too much liability. Yes, Clinton did hand it too us, then Bush took it back. I've seen both sides, and I know fully well which one works best for me.
Well, you must not follow current events very much. Clinton single handedly killed the American Steel market, including their jobs to foreign competition. Ronnie, bailed out the failing Chrystler Corp and saved tens of thousands of Union jobs. Bush has took nothing back, its called market correction. Much of which presedent was set during the "glorious clinton years."
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